20/21 Championship ups and downs

[valleys caveman]

Nine for fun. What's yours?

My top six.

1 Watford
2 Forest
3 Norwich
4 Cardiff
5 Brentford
6 Derby

Bottom three.

22 Barnsley
23 Wycombe
24 Rotherham

[Des Parrot]

My top six.

1 Forest
2 Norwich
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3 Bournemouth
4 Stoke
5 Watford
6 Brentford

Bottom three.

22 Luton
23 Rotherham
24 Wycombe

[Eric the Half a Bee]

1 Brentford
2 Cardiff
3 Stoke
4 Watford
5 Blackburn
6 Derby

22 Wycombe
23 Rotherham
24 Birmingham

[Des Parrot]

I forgot Wednesday start on -12, will they get out of the bottom three?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I forgot Wednesday start on -12, will they get out of the bottom three?

Is there the same potential for Derby?

[J R Hartley]

I forgot Wednesday start on -12, will they get out of the bottom three?

No

[City123]

Norwich
Stoke
Watford
Forest
Cardiff
Preston

Birmingham (Derby if deducted points)
Wycombe
Wednesday

[valleys caveman]

Top six finish - odds (Bet365)

Watford 4/7
Brentford 4/7
Norwich 4/6
Bournemouth 11/8
Stoke 7/4
Forest 9/4
Cardiff 12/5
Derby 11/4
Millwall 11/4
Swansea 11/4
Middlesbrough 3/1
Preston 10/3
Blackburn 7/2
Huddersfield 7/2
Bristol City 15/4
Barnsley 9/2
Birmingham 9/2
QPR 9/2
Reading 9/2
Coventry 11/2
Luton 6/1
Wednesday 8/1
Rotherham 11/1
Wycombe 25/1

Why are Stoke such short odds? Have they brought in some new players?

[Mr Soul '68]

1/Brentford
2/Forest
3/Cardiff
4/Middlesboro
5/Bournemouth
6/Watford

22.Sheff Wed
23.Reading
24.Coventry

[sneggyblubird]

Top six finish - odds (Bet365)

Watford 4/7
Brentford 4/7
Norwich 4/6
Bournemouth 11/8
Stoke 7/4
Forest 9/4
Cardiff 12/5
Derby 11/4
Millwall 11/4
Swansea 11/4
Middlesbrough 3/1
Preston 10/3
Blackburn 7/2
Huddersfield 7/2
Bristol City 15/4
Barnsley 9/2
Birmingham 9/2
QPR 9/2
Reading 9/2
Coventry 11/2
Luton 6/1
Wednesday 8/1
Rotherham 11/1
Wycombe 25/1

Why are Stoke such short odds? Have they brought in some new players?

Because on paper the looked a top 6 squad last season but for whatever reasons did not play like it until the new manager came in.They looked good at the back end though and got some really good results.I guess the bookies feel they will continue in the same vein this season and for what its worth so do I,hence the short odds.

[valleys caveman]

Because on paper the looked a top 6 squad last season but for whatever reasons did not play like it until the new manager came in.They looked good at the back end though and got some really good results.I guess the bookies feel they will continue in the same vein this season and for what its worth so do I,hence the short odds.

Fair enough

I notice that a few have put them in their top six in this thread too.
Middlesbrough at 3/1 surprised me also. Warnock factor maybe?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Fair enough

I notice that a few have put them in their top six in this thread too.
Middlesbrough at 3/1 surprised me also. Warnock factor maybe?

Perhaps, but Boro are a busted flush, even with Warnock. Top half an achievement, I reckon.

As for Stoke, mine was just a gut instinct based on how they ended the season. A good start might set them up and their first 6 games give them an opportunity to start well.

[valleys caveman]

So how did you do?

I had a mare. Derby play-off place and Barnsley to go down

I see a few of us had Forest to do well too.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

So how did you do?

I had a mare. Derby play-off place and Barnsley to go down

I see a few of us had Forest to do well too.

Every season we seem to have quite a few fans who say Forest are going to do well. Reality is that they've not finished in the top 6 since Dave Jones was our manager. This season marks the 6th season in the last 10 years where they've finished in the bottom half. Last season's 7th place finish was the closest they've got, where they somehow contrived to make a complete hash of the end of the season.

[jon1959]

Every season we seem to have quite a few fans who say Forest are going to do well. Reality is that they've not finished in the top 6 since Dave Jones was our manager. This season marks the 6th season in the last 10 years where they've finished in the bottom half. Last season's 7th place finish was the closest they've got, where they somehow contrived to make a complete hash of the end of the season.

It's not just fans. I think the national pundits and bookies have also rated Forest's chances in the last two seasons.