Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
Is it really that bad though? I've never been up that way. Must be some decent areas around it at least.

People often say similar about cardiff without ever being here probably, some areas of the city aren't great, same as any city but overall having lived in a few places around the UK I think its a great place to live with plenty to do relative to its size.
Yes, it is really that bad. As another poster says, you have to live in a place to know it, but of course once you're living there it's too late. As Jon says, there are some nice areas in Teeside but Middlesbrough is not one of them.