Carl Beech , fake child abuse victim BBC 2 now

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made up allegations of systematic abuse from MPs , murder , sex abuse rings in Parliament

But it was all lies

Conned so many peoples lives including journalists , police officers etc

Leon Britton and Ted Heath were accused of being a child sex abuse ring

And it was all lies

Britton was never my favourite politician but he wasn't a sex offender

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Harvey proctor on now , poor bastard

A homosexual , not a paedophile

He looked a beaten man

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Harvey proctor on now , poor bastard

A homosexual , not a paedophile

He looked a beaten man

I agree.

Whatever your views on Proctors politics ( which definitely weren't yours or mine Sludge, too right wing for me, so definitely too far to the right for you!) he was treated scandalously.

Not Tom Watson's finest moment. He got this badly wrong.

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I agree.

Whatever your views on Proctors politics ( which definitely weren't yours or mine Sludge, too right wing for me, so definitely too far to the right for you!) he was treated scandalously.

Not Tom Watson's finest moment. He got this badly wrong.

Tom Watson used these lies for political purposes , which is a disgrace

Proctor was a gay man who was into consensual sex with other men

He wasn't a child abuser

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Tom Watson used these lies for political purposes , which is a disgrace

Proctor was a gay man who was into consensual sex with other men

He wasn't a child abuser

This is a tricky area but I just don't think that we should be naming people before they have stood trial.

I understand the argument that the naming of alleged sex offenders means more victims may come forward and strengthen the case. But surely keeping them anonymous until guilty prevents the creation of more victims - in this case the people with false allegations against them.

I suppose it is a case of what is more important; securing convictions or protecting the innocent.

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This is a tricky area but I just don't think that we should be naming people before they have stood trial.

I understand the argument that the naming of alleged sex offenders means more victims may come forward and strengthen the case. But surely keeping them anonymous until guilty prevents the creation of more victims - in this case the people with false allegations against them.

I suppose it is a case of what is more important; securing convictions or protecting the innocent.

He's been found guilty of lying about the abuse he suffered and was guilty of possessing thousands of indecent images of children

He is in prison