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Thread: Whats the roughest place you have been to in the UK or US ?

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    Hull, Toxteth, Peckham, Harringay, Plaistow, North Philly, Chicago Southside, Detroit, East New York, the Marcy Projects in Brooklyn, Clinton Hill, Brooklyn. But the worst and most scary place I have ever been to by far, is Juarez just over the Mexican border from El Paso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Brandy Bridge nightclub in the petrol station in Merthyr definitely one of the roughest dives I been in UK.
    Scoring dope down on Avenue D on the lower east side NYC was pretty scary on a few occasions.
    There are luxury apartment buildings on Avenue D now. I lived on Avenue C about 10 years ago. It was fine. Wouldn't have ventured past Avenue A in the 90s though.

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    Many years ago whilst on a business trip to the US I was in Philadelphia and went for a drive. Got lost and ended up in South Philadelphia. Finally found my way out, told some US friends about this and they were horrified. I quote:-

    While the majority of Americans report that they believe Chicago is the most dangerous city in America, looking solely at the murder rate per capita, Philadelphia could be considered one of the most dangerous big cities in America with a murder rate of 21.5 per 100,000 people.27 Jul 2020

    Also got lost in Baltimore on the way back from DC.
    South Philly is not so bad. It's mostly Italian. North Philly is like a war zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshcake. View Post
    Lyon was particularly rough for me the two times I've been there. Lots of homeless people and a lot of large tower block areas that the poor are channeled into.

    Middlesbrough is probably the roughest UK city I've stayed in as a whole. The bigger cities like London/Manchester probably have rougher areas but these are counteracted with nice areas. I saw no redeeming features in Middlesbrough.
    I lived in Lyon. "Rough"? You're having a laugh. Undoubtedly one of the prettiest and friendliest places I've ever lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Hull, Toxteth, Peckham, Harringay, Plaistow, North Philly, Chicago Southside, Detroit, East New York, the Marcy Projects in Brooklyn, Clinton Hill, Brooklyn. But the worst and most scary place I have ever been to by far, is Juarez just over the Mexican border from El Paso.
    I'd go for Mexico City. When I was there a colleague, who posts on here occasionally, and I played guess the maximum distance between private security guards while driving through it. This was all set off by watching "Man on Fire". That one film put me off Mexico for life.

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by binman View Post
    I lived in Townhill for a year in 1991

    I went jogging in a Cardiff top - I felt like Rex Kramer 'Danger seeker' (NB I did go very early)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwk6r8TJD2U
    I wasn’t expecting that Thought it was going to be some Evil Kaneevl style stuntman trick.

    Im surprised Sludge and his ilk haven’t got that video removed off YouTube.

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Hull, Toxteth, Peckham, Harringay, Plaistow, North Philly, Chicago Southside, Detroit, East New York, the Marcy Projects in Brooklyn, Clinton Hill, Brooklyn. But the worst and most scary place I have ever been to by far, is Juarez just over the Mexican border from El Paso.
    I used to teach geography (of crime). Juarez was a case study of drug cartels' route in for the class A and firearms out to pay for them.....and how the cartels have divided up Mexico. Best avoid Juarez. All good geography mind and kept Yr 9 interested. Just needed to be careful with the teaching material. Beats "wheat from the prairies" any day for keeping interest up.

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Tunis used be a nightmare, prob still is. A group of about 10 attempted to kidnap my then misses about 20 years ago, tried dragging her off as she was walking to meet me on her own. If I hadn’t intervened she might never have been seen again.....hindsight eh?
    Businessmen from Libya.....Year 9/10 girls. You get the picture. Tunis reminded me of the film Casablanca. Right dodgy characters about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I wasn’t expecting that Thought it was going to be some Evil Kaneevl style stuntman trick.

    Im surprised Sludge and his ilk haven’t got that video removed off YouTube.
    I read that as "Thornhill"! Llanishen best avoided when I was a lad.

  10. #60

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    Livingston and tredegar

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I lived in Lyon. "Rough"? You're having a laugh. Undoubtedly one of the prettiest and friendliest places I've ever lived.
    It's a sh*thole

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    My sister lives in Norbury, South London which isn’t too bad, a lot of young professionals live there now, but there’s some estates near by in Mitcham and Merton which that I certainly wouldn’t venture out at night. Tooting also.
    I live in Tooting, unless nurses and doctors are now considered intimidating folk, I think it's moved on considerably.

  13. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    There are luxury apartment buildings on Avenue D now. I lived on Avenue C about 10 years ago. It was fine. Wouldn't have ventured past Avenue A in the 90s though.
    From 89 - 97 A-B were okay you had to keep your wits about you but C & D were really heavy with the Hispanic and Caribbean drug gangs. I nearly got killed outside CBGB'S when a Puerto Rican pulled a gun on me in broad day light, I managed to run across the Bowery and got away from him to this day i thank my lucky stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    I live in Tooting, unless nurses and doctors are now considered intimidating folk, I think it's moved on considerably.
    Tooting is alright, spent a few months in that area working, some people are soft There are some dodgy estates in south london, around Camberwell, Brixton, Streatham, Tulse Hill etc and a little to the east in Peckham, although i didn't gave any problems at night, even in stockwell. The people were fine. Cardiff on a saturday night when the city centre is full up with roided valley boys is much more dangerous than most parts of London, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    I used to teach geography (of crime). Juarez was a case study of drug cartels' route in for the class A and firearms out to pay for them.....and how the cartels have divided up Mexico. Best avoid Juarez. All good geography mind and kept Yr 9 interested. Just needed to be careful with the teaching material. Beats "wheat from the prairies" any day for keeping interest up.
    I can still remember learning about the Chinook winds that blow across the Canadian prairies.

  16. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    New Tredegar / Aberbargoed.

    It’s literally still 1978 there.
    That's a fair point, lots of social problems in concentrated areas. I have a friend who married a psychologist who was from and previously practised in Philadelphia, working with all types. He got a job with Aneurin Bevan health trust, which serves the Rhymney Valleys and Gwent valleys. I was talking to him about the differences he has encountered while working in south wales, his reply was this ' You have these small communities where there are alot of social issues and drug and alcohol addiction, maybe 1500 people of which 600 are suffering with mental health' ' In Philly we have guns, thank **** you don't have them over here as half of the south wales valleys would be ****ing dead'! shouldn't laugh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    That's a fair point, lots of social problems in concentrated areas. I have a friend who married a psychologist who was from and previously practised in Philadelphia, working with all types. He got a job with Aneurin Bevan health trust, which serves the Rhymney Valleys and Gwent valleys. I was talking to him about the differences he has encountered while working in south wales, his reply was this ' You have these small communities where there are alot of social issues and drug and alcohol addiction, maybe 1500 people of which 600 are suffering with mental health' ' In Philly we have guns, thank **** you don't have them over here as half of the south wales valleys would be ****ing dead'! shouldn't laugh....
    It would reduce our obesity rates by a bit mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    It would reduce our obesity rates by a bit mind.
    Their looking for new ideas and folk who think out of the box in the new government , I can see a spot for you in the new PHE managment think tank 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    It would reduce our obesity rates by a bit mind.
    Easier to aim at-Bigger target? Imagine if fire arms were made legal in the UK? ****ing carnage on a summers evening in Tremorfa, No doubt.

  20. #70

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    Went out in Pontypridd in my youth. It was like being in a Wild West movie.

  21. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Easier to aim at-Bigger target? Imagine if fire arms were made legal in the UK? ****ing carnage on a summers evening in Tremorfa, No doubt.
    In my head I had more gun deaths, less fat people. Now thinking about I’m so wrong as the USA have loads of gun deaths but they’re still a nation of fat, lard arsed, wobbly ****ers.

    To any citizens of the USA on here, please put your donuts down accept my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poolerblue View Post
    Had tickets to see the Buckaneers v 49ers in Tampa about 20 years ago and staying in Clearwater at the time

    Drove into Tampa on a warm, sunny Sunday on the morning of the game and got completely lost trying to find stadium

    One minute was in a affluent, pleasant suburb with people out in their gardens, washing their cars etc but literally about 1/4 mile further it got considerably worse. Boarded up houses, gangs of young men hanging about on street corners, burnt out cars etc. Luckily a police car saw us and clocked the hire car plates and stickers. They asked us where we were going and escorted us back onto the main highway

    Always remember this day as I was amazed how close these 2 very different neighbourhoods were and how quickly you can get yourselves in the wrong place without really realising it
    Tampa has some right hell-holes, we decided to go and eat at this Vegan place in Tampa, it was a fair old drive from Orlando, put the sat nav on, it took us to a right dodgy area, i stopped and asked at a gas station and was told " this is no place for tourists " , we never did find the place

  23. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Their looking for new ideas and folk who think out of the box in the new government , I can see a spot for you in the new PHE managment think tank ��

    Death squads for the homeless is another of my thoughts.

  24. #74

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    Not US or UK, but Bogata ( its south america, so maybe i can get away with that ) didnt look good, i met the guy i was doing business with, he drove me to his factory, beck to the hotel, he picked me up that evening to have a meal with his family and show me his cars, i then stayed in the hotel at the airport till my flight ( apart from a taxi ride to a mall ) i do regret not going to the nearby theme park which the hotel said was fairly safe

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    I know it's outside of the parameters of the thread, but on safari in the Masai Mara several years ago, we needed an armed guard on our 4x4 to protect us from rival warring tribes as we traveled across some disputed land.
    Thankfully his services weren't needed.

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