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    Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    I'm not saying that either.

    Give it to the most deserving person regardless. Dropping somebody in who is undeserving isn't right.
    How do you measure most deserving though?

    Ryan Giggs, medals on table, there is no one greater in British football, but he has a very mundane personality.

    Carragher couldn’t lace Giggs boots but he displays a real passion for the game which makes him a better pundit than Giggs would be.

    Clearly Sky want to be more diverse moving forward and Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell had far better careers than say Clinton Morrison but Clinton is a better pundit.

    Using Darts as an example you couldn’t get someone with more knowledge and experience than what they would be commentating on than Phil Taylor but he’s barely been on TV since he retired. Why? He’s arrogant, self absorbed and is not very good at giving credit to others, especially MVG, so wouldn’t make for a great pundit.

    Wayne Mardle didn’t win a major yet he’s fantastic on the darts punditry because he’s got charisma and he’s relatable.

    Sky obviously want Soccer Saturday to appeal to a wider audience and so they need a more diverse panel to appeal to that audience.

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    Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    How do you measure most deserving though?

    Ryan Giggs, medals on table, there is no one greater in British football, but he has a very mundane personality.

    Carragher couldn’t lace Giggs boots but he displays a real passion for the game which makes him a better pundit than Giggs would be.

    Clearly Sky want to be more diverse moving forward and Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell had far better careers than say Clinton Morrison but Clinton is a better pundit.

    Using Darts as an example you couldn’t get someone with more knowledge and experience than what they would be commentating on than Phil Taylor but he’s barely been on TV since he retired. Why? He’s arrogant, self absorbed and is not very good at giving credit to others, especially MVG, so wouldn’t make for a great pundit.

    Wayne Mardle didn’t win a major yet he’s fantastic on the darts punditry because he’s got charisma and he’s relatable.

    Sky obviously want Soccer Saturday to appeal to a wider audience and so they need a more diverse panel to appeal to that audience.
    Your point is valid, but I must comment on your thoughts on Phil Taylor. He's barely been seen on TV from his own choice. He doesn't attend many tournaments. As a commentator, on the rare occasions it has happened, I thought he's been humorous, not one bit judgemental and talks through it as if he was playing. I'd be more than happy for him to be a commentator. Things like humour and rapport can take some time.

    When Rob Phillips started commentating on Radio Wales I didn't think much of him. He's now easily Wales' best football commentator and has a humour and rapport.

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    Re: "Three middle-aged white guys get the sack.."

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    How do you measure most deserving though?

    Ryan Giggs, medals on table, there is no one greater in British football, but he has a very mundane personality.

    Carragher couldn’t lace Giggs boots but he displays a real passion for the game which makes him a better pundit than Giggs would be.

    Clearly Sky want to be more diverse moving forward and Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell had far better careers than say Clinton Morrison but Clinton is a better pundit.

    Using Darts as an example you couldn’t get someone with more knowledge and experience than what they would be commentating on than Phil Taylor but he’s barely been on TV since he retired. Why? He’s arrogant, self absorbed and is not very good at giving credit to others, especially MVG, so wouldn’t make for a great pundit.

    Wayne Mardle didn’t win a major yet he’s fantastic on the darts punditry because he’s got charisma and he’s relatable.

    Sky obviously want Soccer Saturday to appeal to a wider audience and so they need a more diverse panel to appeal to that audience.
    I agree with all of that - although I did hear an interview with Ryan Giggs the other day where Robbie savage was interviewing him over the phone and he came across so much better, seemed relaxed and even had a sense of humour

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