A message to JR Hartley , lots of love from the West Glamorgan bluebirds xx

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https://viewfromtheninian.com/2018/0...nest-in-neath/

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

A good read.
'Ron Evans Pies' - I have to be honest, I've never heard of them, are they still in production and are they any good?

In the comments section, someone referrs to Swansea as the "ducks" - ok, it might be slightly juvenile but, uhm... I like it!

[Baloo]

Good blog that

[J R Hartley]

I know Ant Phillips. Lovely fella. Didnt realise that was his daughter. Small world.

By your logic they should be Jacks.

[J R Hartley]

Interesting point she makes....

For me, it’s not about where you live, or how far away you are from a team that means a lot to you. It’s about embracing your own identity and getting behind your team.

Amen. People can support who they want.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Interesting point she makes....

For me, it’s not about where you live, or how far away you are from a team that means a lot to you. It’s about embracing your own identity and getting behind your team.

Amen. People can support who they want.

She supports cardiff city because her father took her as a kid


I wonder how many of the hoardes of dull man united and Liverpool fans in South Wales support them because their dads took them ?

Do people in pontypridd who support man united do so because it is part of their identity?

I think its because they are clowns whether you think they can support them or not

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I know Ant Phillips. Lovely fella. Didnt realise that was his daughter. Small world.

By your logic they should be Jacks.

see below

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A good read.
'Ron Evans Pies' - I have to be honest, I've never heard of them, are they still in production and are they any good?

In the comments section, someone referrs to Swansea as the "ducks" - ok, it might be slightly juvenile but, uhm... I like it!

the only pies I know are Lewis pies

Dreadful yellow rancid things

[J R Hartley]

She supports cardiff city because her father took her as a kid


I wonder how many of the hoardes of dull man united and Liverpool fans in South Wales support them because their dads took them ?

Do people in pontypridd who support man united do so because it is part of their identity?

I think its because they are clowns whether you think they can support them or not

Youre in no position to call anyone a clown!

[J R Hartley]

see below

Eh?

[Jordi Culé]

She supports cardiff city because her father took her as a kid


I wonder how many of the hoardes of dull man united and Liverpool fans in South Wales support them because their dads took them ?

Do people in pontypridd who support man united do so because it is part of their identity?

I think its because they are clowns whether you think they can support them or not

You're an enlightened soul in regards to this subject!

Out of interest, why can't somebody from Pontypridd identify more with Man United than Cardiff City?

Do you actually think your area of birth should dictate your choices?

[J R Hartley]

She supports cardiff city because her father took her as a kid


I wonder how many of the hoardes of dull man united and Liverpool fans in South Wales support them because their dads took them ?

Do people in pontypridd who support man united do so because it is part of their identity?

I think its because they are clowns whether you think they can support them or not

To answer your question there will be many young lads / lasses who support Liverpool and Man United because their dad took them.

Boy in my youngest daughters class has travelled to loads of parts of Europe to watch Liverpool and this was before he was 10. So as a result of being a Liverpool fan hes a well travelled child.

Yes there are many who only ever watch them on TV but so what. It isnt a crime.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

To answer your question there will be many young lads / lasses who support Liverpool and Man United because their dad took them.

Boy in my youngest daughters class has travelled to loads of parts of Europe to watch Liverpool and this was before he was 10. So as a result of being a Liverpool fan hes a well travelled child.

Yes there are many who only ever watch them on TV but so what. It isnt a crime.

Sad as feck in my opinion

Utter horseshit

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You're an enlightened soul in regards to this subject!

Out of interest, why can't somebody from Pontypridd identify more with Man United than Cardiff City?

Do you actually think your area of birth should dictate your choices?

well someone from pontypridd , a working class valleys town 12 miles from Cardiff can try and identify with Manchester United if they want but the thing they have in common with man united is loads of other clowns from merthyr try and identify with them too

And they can't

If someone from Manchester moves down to Cardiff as a young man and starts supporting cardiff city and his children to grow up to be bluebirds season ticket holders thats called football socialism

If some plank from ponty supports liverpool then brings his kid up as south wales scousers who ignore their local teams , then cobblers to em

[Jordi Culé]

well someone from pontypridd , a working class valleys town 12 miles from Cardiff can try and identify with Manchester United if they want but the thing they have in common with man united is loads of other clowns from merthyr try and identify with them too

And they can't

If someone from Manchester moves down to Cardiff as a young man and starts supporting cardiff city and his children to grow up to be bluebirds season ticket holders thats called football socialism

If some plank from ponty supports liverpool then brings his kid up as south wales scousers who ignore their local teams , then cobblers to em

Football socialism?

Explain that to me.

One last thing, can you detail the criteria needed to support whatever club in terms of locality, affinity and sludgery so we can distribute the information to the lost footballing souls of South Wales.

[splott parker]

K

Do you actually think your area of birth should dictate your choices?

Sometimes some folk born in Wales contradict themselves though, I’m sure we’ve all witnessed lads in their three feathered Welsh jerseys watching an England/Wales rugby game in the pub on a Saturday absolutely verbally slaughtering everything and anything English yet they turn that reversible same colour shirt inside out the next afternoon and in the same pub actually call themselves Mancs or Scousers when watching their Lancashire heroes...............Lancashire is still in England I think

[insider]

Maybe not pick your club because they are successful.
Glory hunting James hunts.

[Jordi Culé]

K

Sometimes some folk born in Wales contradict themselves though, I’m sure we’ve all witnessed lads in their three feathered Welsh jerseys watching an England/Wales rugby game in the pub on a Saturday absolutely verbally slaughtering everything and anything English yet they turn that reversible same colour shirt inside out the next afternoon and in the same pub actually call themselves Mancs or Scousers when watching their Lancashire heroes...............Lancashire is still in England I think

Of course and they deserve being shredded for being as dull as dogshit.

I'm struggling to see Sludges viewpoint on this when a bloke from Neath supports Cardiff whilst a bloke from Ponty should never watch any other club other than Cardiff.

His reasoning, to put it politely is 'all to ****'.

[J R Hartley]

well someone from pontypridd , a working class valleys town 12 miles from Cardiff can try and identify with Manchester United if they want but the thing they have in common with man united is loads of other clowns from merthyr try and identify with them too

And they can't

If someone from Manchester moves down to Cardiff as a young man and starts supporting cardiff city and his children to grow up to be bluebirds season ticket holders thats called football socialism

If some plank from ponty supports liverpool then brings his kid up as south wales scousers who ignore their local teams , then cobblers to em

That’s their prerogative. Like it was yours to go and support Cardiff instead of Swansea, your local side.

[life on mars]

Football socialism?

Explain that to me.

One last thing, can you detail the criteria needed to support whatever club in terms of locality, affinity and sludgery so we can distribute the information to the lost footballing souls of South Wales.

Football socialism is when one stands to the far left of the ground 😄

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That’s their prerogative. Like it was yours to go and support Cardiff instead of Swansea, your local side.

35 miles up the road
or 200 miles up the road

Load of old ****

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Football socialism?

Explain that to me.

One last thing, can you detail the criteria needed to support whatever club in terms of locality, affinity and sludgery so we can distribute the information to the lost footballing souls of South Wales.

I can't explain football socialism to someone who isn't a socialist

Socialism is about community

Not picking your team because they win things

[J R Hartley]

35 miles up the road
or 200 miles up the road

Load of old ****

So what is an acceptable distance in this football supporting community of yours?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

So what is an acceptable distance in this football supporting community of yours?

In the North East of England, Newcastle , Sunderland and Middlesbrough fans often overlap , areas south of the Tyne but closer to Newcastle often support Sunderland for example

In South wales there are cardiff fans in neath and port Talbot and Swansea fans in aberdare , merthyr and Pencoed

And then you have man united fans in Cardiff, pontypridd , Llanelli , Swansea , with no links whatsoever to the North West of England apart from the team they support wins things all the time .

These people should be backing Welsh clubs but they are not . You think its OK. I think its a load of cabbage .

[Tuerto]

Interesting point she makes....

For me, it’s not about where you live, or how far away you are from a team that means a lot to you. It’s about embracing your own identity and getting behind your team.

Amen. People can support who they want.

Agreed. There's no remit to liking football. If somebody likes watching Liverpool on Sky or at the pub with mates, then they can call themselves what they like, who ****ing cares? It has zero bearing on me supporting The City. I do think that they miss out on the anticipation of a live game, the atmosphere, even the walk to the stadium on cold evening and entering the ground, those things mean something to me. Apart from that, i don't really consider people who support a successful club and watch them on TV.