Which park did they pick this referee up from?
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Which park did they pick this referee up from?
The ref is crap.
Both teams have dragged him down to their level.
Wow just wow
What do you get for winning your group?
Awful game, great result !
To be fair Wales steadily improved as the game went along (hard not to on that first half performance) but it looked like two rather tired teams out there today. Good to see Bale more 'awake' at times too.
Great header by Williams and did well to be in the box from a right back position.
Giggs is building something good here.
One of the most important qualities a top pro can have is patience.
Wales are showing discipline, with a good work ethic, you could compare it to a boxer showing ring craft.
They are building momentum which breeds confidence and a winning mentality, just like it did in 2016.
The partnership with Ampadu and Lockyer was impressive.
Great to see Davies still getting up and down the channels, great pro.
I'd rather be in control of the ball than let the opposition have it. Welsh teams of the past could barely string half a dozen passes together, and now that we can keep the ball for extended periods people are complaining
We can fine tune our play, but being able to keep possession of the ball is very important.
I might add the top teams spend months doing specific drills that allow them to move the ball around quickly. I noticed some players didn't go where they were supposed to a few times. This all has to be worked out on the training pitch, and everybody has to know their role inside out.
Good result in the end but otherwise two very flat performances. To be expected in many ways, watched a few matches over the weekend and all had a pre season feel.
Yet to be convinced we can adequately replace anywhere near the impact bale (unrealistic to be fair) and Ramsey have had on our performances and results moving forward but I'm delighted so many young players have had an opportunity and it will set us up well in future.
Lovely cross from Johnny Williams and an excellent header from Neco. Two clean sheets despite missing four centre backs and two key central midfielders.
A great chance of making the play offs and from there winning them and qualifying for the World Cup Finals.
I think even Lewandowski would have struggled to make an impact in this side over the last two matches. To be fair to Moore, he has put away the two chances he's had, albeit one of them being disallowed.
Once Wales have rediscovered their fluency, there are enough potential goalscorers in the team for the absence of a world class striker not to be an issue. At present, it is the way Giggs has set up the team to play that is preventing them being a high scoring outfit, not the current players being profligate in front of goal.
Frustrating match for Kieffer as referee refused to allow him to play his game.
Just checked and it appears that 16 teams will qualify for the next World Cup from Europe. The ten group winners in the WC qualifiers will qualify for the finals. The ten runners up in each group will go into the play offs along with the two best placed Nation League sides. So 12 teams involved in the play offs with six qualifying for the finals with the ten group winners.
In fact only 3 teams out of the 12 in the play offs will qualify for the finals. So 12 take part in the play offs presumably three groups of four with the play off winners in each group qualifying for the finals.
I wrote this yesterday trying to explain the competition and it's rewards.
Nations league is an international league competition with promotion and relegation. Between four levels
Wales are in League B (level 2) - which contains 16 teams split into four groups. if we were to win our group we, along with the other three group winners, would be promoted to League A. Bottom placed teams in each League are relegated.
There are four Leagues. A, B & C contain 16 teams. League D the 7 remaining UEFA nations.
Promotion and relegation happens at all levels except teams that finish bottom of League D who just finish last in Europe. They can’t be relegated but can win promotion. It means Andorra for example over a few tournaments could be promoted to the top League. Likewise England could be relegated to League D
The 4 group winners in League A contest the Nations League finals to win the overall competition. Their reward is a trophy.
There will also be normal World Cup qualifying. That starts in March.
10 groups. The 10 group winners all qualify for Qatar. The ten runners up all go into the play offs.
Only three play off winners can go to Qatar. So the ten group runners up will be joined by two sides from the Nations League who have not already qualified for Qatar or already gained a play off place.
That means six games producing six winners who then play three finals to produce the three play off winners.
Giving us the 13 European teams at the World Cup in 2022
So if Wales finish outside the top two of their World Cup qualifying group they might have a chance of a play off place if they did well in the Nations League. The two sides chosen will be the two highest ranked Nations League performances who have not already qualified directly for the WC or comes runners up in their WC qualifying group.
Nations League has basically replaced friendlies (there will still be some friendlies) making international games competitive and with a chance of a reward of promotion, relegation or maybe a play off place for qualifying for a tournament.
Covid, a re-arranged Euro’s and a WC in winter 22 means the usual international routine is a bit disrupted but we will have competitive international football this September, October, November in the Nations League.
Next March, September, October and November in WC qualifying - with three qualifying games in a week to fit the matches in that would usually have been played in June but can’t because we have the Euros.
Then the 2022 Nations league will be played in June and September ahead of the November Word Cup.
As well as all the league and qualifying games the nations league final, nations league relegation play offs and World Cup play offs have to take place as well.
Add in the 20/21 domestic season, the 21/22 domestic season and part of the 22/23 season to be played before the WC in 26 months time it can be fair to say there is going to be almost wall to wall football for the next couple of years.