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What a wonderful place to have the christmas market, right in front of the castle. The only criticism that i can offer is why wasn't this done years ago? Makes complete sense. Maybe the food area can relocate to the original Christmas market area, There's a Panini shop at the front of the queens arcade, so no waiting around.Originally Posted by xsnaggle
A wonderful place to have it would be actually in the grounds of the castle, the ‘portcullis’ & ‘drawbridge’ part could be decorated to make an enticing entry. If it was good enough for the military tattoo, It’s a Knockout, Queen & 10cc it’d be marvellous for a Christmas market.
That is exactly where the food place should have been on day 1, I agree with you, it's perfect.
hey wouldn't have had to close Castle Street.
As an edit to this, the panini shop wouldn't be able to use it for their customers if they haven't signed up for the ordering app. You may recall only about 11 businesses did, and if it wasn't one it would be barred, like the vast majority of other food places in the centre.
Nothing like a council that considers everyone is there?
You've been having a moan (rightfully so about public transport - debatable for the other stuff) for months. Why is now the time and not previously? What have you done other than share your gripes about the council on here (where local Govt. legislature and policy very rarely get altered)?
You're taking the piss, right?
Why do you think that?
Tell me what you know.
I only know what you've told me. The council have built an outdoor seating area for restaurants to utilise should they choose to... and that involved them signing up to an app. Many have chosen not to and that's the council's fault, of course
You didn't reply to my earlier post.
Is it correct that if you order from an outlet that’s not on Castle St/Duke St that it’s £4.50 extra to cover delivery?
So I wasn't taking the piss, having the seating area in the Hayes would be no added benefit to the panini shop. Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business and the adverse comments on the food sent so far may have outweighed any benefits. Just a thought.I only know what you've told me. The council have built an outdoor seating area for restaurants to utilise should they choose to... and that involved them signing up to an app. Many have chosen not to and that's the council's fault, of course
You didn't reply to my earlier post.
And gladly, I do not have any stricures on when or if I answer you posts, again tf.
As an added point it has now been decide that the area is being taken down on Sunday, but the council haven't decided what to do with the street.
"Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business".So I wasn't taking the piss, having the seating area in the Hayes would be no added benefit to the panini shop. Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business and the adverse comments on the food sent so far may have outweighed any benefits. Just a thought.
And gladly, I do not have any stricures on when or if I answer you posts, again tf.
As an added point it has now been decide that the area is being taken down on Sunday, but the council haven't decided what to do with the street.
You don't have to answer anything... But you've been quick enough to moan about the public transport in Cardiff and the issues with Castle St.. now you're and telling everyone that they now need to be vocal about the issues you've raised.
Because of that, I thought you'd jump at the chance to answer a question about what you've done personally to vocalise your unhappiness with how the council is working (other than moan on here) so we may be able to follow suit.
Guess not.
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
Paninigate.
Any feedback on the financial success (or failure) as yet?
I reckon to use it as a road would be a good idea, there isn’t much traffic these days anyway. It’s down about 80% on what it was a year ago I heard, so may aswell leave it as it was.
The council really don't want to re open the road, over the next ten years expect plenty more exercises like this. I'm all for getting people out of their vehicles, it wont work though until public transport is revolutionised in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. There has to be a point in time where people with cars start thinking about others when they decide to take a little joy ride across the city for no real reason.
I don't think that was the whole point of the scheme, it was more about giving businesses another option in these difficult times. It would have cost the Council money, i can't see how it wouldn't have.
Was it bollocks. It was about closing Castle Street - something the council have wanted to do for a long time. Simple as that.
I meant from the food outlets point of view, they’re obviously in business to make money. I wonder if any of them achieved what they hoped for over the period that the area’s been open? It would be good to hear from them either, “ Yes, it was a success and we’re looking forward to it opening again” or “No, it wasn’t financially viable and we won’t be taking part if the scheme is revived”. The former would justify the council’s decision to create the food area, the latter, if the council are adamant on continuing the road closure, may, perhaps result in the authorities coming out and saying that they just want the road closed full stop without any cloak and dagger reason.
I know, a mate of mine is quite high up in the council, says they’ve been dying to find an excuse for years.....
you're probably right.
Was in town on Monday. Saw them working in Castle Street and thought they were removing all the lane markings etc., then realized they were installing lane posts etc. All probably rather irrelevant though - Town was empty at midday. Walked through Howells and not a single person other than staff on the ground floor - John Lewis just two. The city centre isn't dying, it's already dead.
It is, god only knows what will be left after “they” decide to lift local lockdowns.....
I don't recall saying that in this discussion."Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business".
You don't have to answer anything... But you've been quick enough to moan about the public transport in Cardiff and the issues with Castle St.. now you're and telling everyone that they now need to be vocal about the issues you've raised.
Because of that, I thought you'd jump at the chance to answer a question about what you've done personally to vocalise your unhappiness with how the council is working (other than moan on here) so we may be able to follow suit.
Guess not.
I've raised the public transport issue with my local councilor and he said they're more interested in stopping cars than in actually providing a reasonable alternative. It will take years to sort out public transport but they don't want to wait that long to get rid of cars.
nothing wrong with that is there?
I have no idea, but I do know that the original rules were that you had to order from the places taking part, that you had to order at least £10 worth of food and you could only have alcoholic drinks if you were eating.
You do put it so eloquently.
I'm not surprised that you don't recall it.
When did you speak to your local councillor?
Ou? D
What is it with you ? Do you think you're the Spanish inquisition?
It none of your business but until quite recently he was my landlord so I spoke to him quite frequently?
So when did I say it?
No, it's just that you're often full of shit and become really defensive when asked simple questions about your assertions (remember the whole "there are people high up who don't want the pubs to reopen" rubbish that you peddled for ages and couldn't name a single person who felt that way?) so it's difficult to believe you when you say certain things. That's your fault, not mine.
Congrats on having a conversation with your former landlord about the issues that have made you so angry
I have no idea what your last question is in reference to. I'm happy to answer it if you can explain what you meant.
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
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