Originally Posted by Dorcus
Go and have a cold panini in Castle Street
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Go and have a cold panini in Castle Street
Carrying a small generator, topped up with juice, along with a microwave always solves my problems when I dine in the road outside the castle.
and BLUETIT could film you because apparently he has nothing better to do
If it is regularly empty now perhaps it needs filming to convince the council that the project has run its course. I walked through town last Saturday at around 2/2.30 pm, it was so nippy that all outside eating/drinking places were nigh on empty. The weather’s not going to improve dramatically now, the Christmas market is ok where it has been for years, Working St area. Open town back up now, perhaps it was ok when the weather was more conducive to walking across town from outlying bus stops, it’s time now for people to be able to reach destinations inside a vehicle.
good idea, let's keep the road closed and move the Christmas market there following the tremendous success of the eating area.
The Council think it's working quite well, but that's only because the traffic levels are nowhere near their normal levels.
The council have already acknowledged that as the weather has changed the area is now redundant.
But they have already hada meeting to try to find a reasonable excuse to keep the roads closed, including, as previously mentioned, one councilor stating they need the space for somewhere to put the Christmas market. All that will do is ensure that less people visit the market than they do now. But as the councils had effectively stopped people from coming to the city centre to shop anyway, that won't really matter.
I read somewhere that the the effect of the councils actions all over the country was destroying town centre businesses and that now they are having to justify their stupidity to angry citizens, and apparently Cardiff centre is one of the worst affected in the country.
It's time people let their opinions be known about that and about the deplorable state of public transport in the city and the surrounding areas.
What a wonderful place to have the christmas market, right in front of the castle. The only criticism that i can offer is why wasn't this done years ago? Makes complete sense. Maybe the food area can relocate to the original Christmas market area, There's a Panini shop at the front of the queens arcade, so no waiting around.
A wonderful place to have it would be actually in the grounds of the castle, the ‘portcullis’ & ‘drawbridge’ part could be decorated to make an enticing entry. If it was good enough for the military tattoo, It’s a Knockout, Queen & 10cc it’d be marvellous for a Christmas market.
That is exactly where the food place should have been on day 1, I agree with you, it's perfect.
hey wouldn't have had to close Castle Street.
As an edit to this, the panini shop wouldn't be able to use it for their customers if they haven't signed up for the ordering app. You may recall only about 11 businesses did, and if it wasn't one it would be barred, like the vast majority of other food places in the centre.
Nothing like a council that considers everyone is there?
You're taking the piss, right?
You've been having a moan (rightfully so about public transport - debatable for the other stuff) for months. Why is now the time and not previously? What have you done other than share your gripes about the council on here (where local Govt. legislature and policy very rarely get altered)?
Why do you think that?
Tell me what you know.
I only know what you've told me. The council have built an outdoor seating area for restaurants to utilise should they choose to... and that involved them signing up to an app. Many have chosen not to and that's the council's fault, of course
You didn't reply to my earlier post.
Is it correct that if you order from an outlet that’s not on Castle St/Duke St that it’s £4.50 extra to cover delivery?
I have no idea, but I do know that the original rules were that you had to order from the places taking part, that you had to order at least £10 worth of food and you could only have alcoholic drinks if you were eating.
So I wasn't taking the piss, having the seating area in the Hayes would be no added benefit to the panini shop. Perhaps the traders didn't sign up to the app because the area was miles away from their places of business and the adverse comments on the food sent so far may have outweighed any benefits. Just a thought.I only know what you've told me. The council have built an outdoor seating area for restaurants to utilise should they choose to... and that involved them signing up to an app. Many have chosen not to and that's the council's fault, of course
You didn't reply to my earlier post.
And gladly, I do not have any stricures on when or if I answer you posts, again tf.
As an added point it has now been decide that the area is being taken down on Sunday, but the council haven't decided what to do with the street.
So they put an outdoor eating area up whilst the weather was good enough for it to be used then took it down when the weather turned bad?
Paninigate.
Any feedback on the financial success (or failure) as yet?
I don't think that was the whole point of the scheme, it was more about giving businesses another option in these difficult times. It would have cost the Council money, i can't see how it wouldn't have.
I reckon to use it as a road would be a good idea, there isn’t much traffic these days anyway. It’s down about 80% on what it was a year ago I heard, so may aswell leave it as it was.
The council really don't want to re open the road, over the next ten years expect plenty more exercises like this. I'm all for getting people out of their vehicles, it wont work though until public transport is revolutionised in Cardiff and the surrounding areas. There has to be a point in time where people with cars start thinking about others when they decide to take a little joy ride across the city for no real reason.
nothing wrong with that is there?
No, exactly. But from some of the complaining on here about it over the past few months you'd think that they were planning on keeping it up all winter but only selling ice creams and sunglasses there
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