Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
I follow the ideas of Keynes and the distribution of wealth , its not a perfect model but capitalism is driving inequality further and further into society until there is nothing left

I am a socialist

You are clearly a Conservative or a libertarian

You actually sound like a thatcherite

I am afraid I disagree with everything you say

When the rivers have run dry and the trees have all been chopped down then you will know that you cannot eat money
I'm not a thatcherite not particularly political at all, I just think that you see everything against the utopian world you believe a socialist society would be.
The problem is it doesn't work. never has and never will. Redistribution of wealth doesn't make people richer it just makes some people poorer.
you can look at socialist states all over the world and see that it doesn't work, see the umber of poor people in them, poor beyond anything that the poor in this country could ever imagine. Russia, Azerbaijan Venezuela N Korea china some of the other non-reconstituted ex soviet satellite states. Poor poor people ruled by excessively rich so called guardians of socialism.
There is more corruption in some of these places than you could ever imagine. you have to live there to understand it. A person has to pay someone for every single thing he/she wants and should be able to get from the state, or he/she can't get it. There is a problem with your papers but £20 can make it go away, your son must join the army but £1000 can make him unfit for military service and so on in every single thing you need. That is the nature of a "socialist" state, everyone clambering to get more money than everyone else to lift themselves out of the misery and depravation of their lives. In the 70s and 80s when Russia was buying wheat from the USA they ahd more than enough to feed the nation but it rotted in railway wagons because the farmers couldn't afford to bribe the railway officials to get it attached to a train. socialism, you can stuff it up your arse mate!
The poor people of this country have no idea how bad it could be and neither do you clearly, you just read what you want to be read and believe what you want to believe, but it has no grounding in history or reality.