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Thread: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

  1. #76

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Of course. If no-one apart from Hitler and a few of his fanatical followers had become Nazis then there would be nothing to stamp out. Simple.
    What about the russians , nothing to do with the nazis , who raped and murdered millions of Polish and other Eastern European people as they drove the nazis out of Germany?

    I think they were just a little racist those Russians

    And the white Australian settlers that basically tried to wipe out the aborigines?

    And the white settlers in America who massacred the red indians ?

    So if no one apart from a few nasty Russians, white Australians and nasty white blokes were given a telling off and these people had not been nasty racism wouldnt be a problem ?

  2. #77

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    you are not a racist but you are against a symbol of protest about racism and inequality

    OK then
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

  3. #78

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Maybe I’m sheltered in suburban wales, but I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen or heard something racist.

    Is the UK actually full of hidden racists?

    There isn’t a racist issue down the City, or most sports grounds.

    I’ve been to hundreds, if not over a thousand sporting events, over the years.

    I’ve heard one racial comment.

    That was directed towards Nathan Blake when he played for Wales in the 90s, and I confronted the bloke.

    Yes, there’ll be the odd racist at games, and pockets of racists in society, but in the whole the vast, vast majority of us abhor racism.

    I don’t personally believe anyone would get away with making a comment at a game these days, without be challenged.

    Particularly as Cardiff is a very inclusive, multicultural city.

    But, this taking the knee.

    Fine initially, but how long does it go on for?

    I watch sport for escapism, not to be lectured that we’re a country of racists. We’re not.

    Like the NFL in America bowing to the current narrative of allowing players to wear the names of convicted felons, on their helmets.

    Yet, the league wouldn’t allow the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago to put the names of the five Police officers killed at the hands of a black man, that Summer.

    Double standards.

    One other thing I’d say about racism, is that it extends both ways.

    There are many black people who can’t stand whites. Apparently, we’re all privileged and to be held to account for the disgraceful way black people were treated many years ago.

    We are just as repulsed, as they are for some of that treatment.

    Society has improved for the better.

    But, taking a knee will never stop a racist, being a racist.

    That needs to come from the way parents raise their kids.

  4. #79

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.

  5. #80

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    There isn’t a racist issue down the City, or most sports grounds.

    I’ve been to hundreds, if not over a thousand sporting events, over the years.

    I’ve heard one racial comment.

    That was directed towards Nathan Blake when he played for Wales in the 90s, and I confronted the bloke.

    Yes, there’ll be the odd racist at games, and pockets of racists in society, but in the whole the vast, vast majority of us abhor racism.

    I don’t personally believe anyone would get away with making a comment at a game these days, without be challenged.

    Particularly as Cardiff is a very inclusive, multicultural city.

    But, this taking the knee.

    Fine initially, but how long does it go on for?

    I watch sport for escapism, not to be lectured that we’re a country of racists. We’re not.

    Like the NFL in America bowing to the current narrative of allowing players to wear the names of convicted felons, on their helmets.

    Yet, the league wouldn’t allow the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago to put the names of the five Police officers killed at the hands of a black man, that Summer.

    Double standards.

    One other thing I’d say about racism, is that it extends both ways.

    There are many black people who can’t stand whites. Apparently, we’re all privileged and to be held to account for the disgraceful way black people were treated many years ago.

    We are just as repulsed, as they are for some of that treatment.

    Society has improved for the better.

    But, taking a knee will never stop a racist, being a racist.

    That needs to come from the way parents raise their kids.
    Well done for having a personal opinion. It shows how I'll informed you are.

  6. #81

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer

    I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse

    I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .

    I know that

    But I also know that you are a racist

  7. #82

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.
    Maybe you should stick to posts telling everyone what an amazing footballer you were, and how Messi asked you to swap shirts after a game, and begged you to join him at Barcelona.

    There are some people on this site who lap up that kind of stuff from a fantasist like yourself, who’s detached from reality!

  8. #83

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer

    I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse

    I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .

    I know that

    But I also know that you are a racist
    Christ, what women would ever want to confide in a seedy pervert like you!

  9. #84

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Well done for having a personal opinion. It shows how I'll informed you are.
    there have been lots of racist incidents at cardiff city matches home and away over the years to deny it happens is pathetic

    Here is just a few

    Bananas being thrown at Alex Williams man City Black keeper

    I would rather be black than a swansea jack used to be sung at Swansea fans

    Town full of pakis shouted at Bradford City and Oldham fans

    All buksh the Asian referree being abused by cardiff fans from the Bob Bank

    Coventry City away in the fa Cup, bus of supporters racially abusing Asian people near the ground

    A poster on here who is of mixed raced being abused by cardiff fans at Charlton

    Bloke arrested on Bob bank for doing a nazi salute

    ****ing ****** being shouted at a Stoke City player wasting time

    Rather wear a turban than a rose often sang just before we left ninian park

    Cardiff is a multi racial city and 16 percent of the city are from a non white background

    How many people do you see from a multicultural background at cardiff matches ?

    To deny that cardiff city doesn't have a racist element among its support and always has its blind

  10. #85

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    Maybe you should stick to posts telling everyone what an amazing footballer you were, and how Messi asked you to swap shirts after a game, and begged you to join him at Barcelona.

    There are some people on this site who lap up that kind of stuff from a fantasist like yourself, who’s detached from reality!
    You're being ridiculous, Messi is way younger than me, we never had the chance to meet. If we had, then I may have swapped shirts with him, depending on how I felt, it's probably the closest he would've got to my shirt all game.

    As for you, you perrenial disappointment, deal with the issues and stop scuttling off to quote some hard right literature in order to reinforce your ****ed up views. Yours, with kisses, the greatest footballer who ever lived!

  11. #86

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    Christ, what women would ever want to confide in a seedy pervert like you!
    Well one that would have been provided support advice and safe referral to specialised people and the police who could help her with her safety , support , rebuilding her life , getting somewhere to live

    I must have been good at it or they would have sacked me

  12. #87

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.
    Riley is a right wing liberarian idiot hanging himself

    Hes going the neo nazis a great job

  13. #88

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story as the old saying goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Maybe I’m sheltered in suburban wales, but I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen or heard something racist.

    Is the UK actually full of hidden racists?
    Hidden? Did you see all those clowns down in Dover last week?

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    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Of course. If no-one apart from Hitler and a few of his fanatical followers had become Nazis then there would be nothing to stamp out. Simple.
    Nothing apart from the millions of passive onlookers who over a few steins would agree with each other that the anti fascist demonstrations in Berlin were over the top, that the Nazis were basically good patriots who liked dressing up, that there is good and bad on both sides and that they Jews’ (and the socialists, gypsies, disabled and other victims and scapegoats) brought some or all of their troubles on themselves!

    Racism cannot be ended just by individuals not giving out explicit racist abuse as a personal choice - which is how the original comment came over.

    I think the BLM protests have reached a tipping point because of the length and weight of numbers involved, and the way prominent figures in sports have aligned themselves with it in visible and coordinated demonstrations before matches/events. But there is an equally determined push back - clear from many governing bodies and across social media. So now is not the time to stop, it is the time to step it up and expose the racists and their sometimes unwitting allies the complacent!

  15. #90

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This is an opinion piece written by a right-wing, pro-police political commentator. It's not journalism. It holds no credibility.

  16. #91

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    Educate yourself, instead of writing such garbage.

    https://www.encounterbooks.com/featu...police-racism/
    If you want to educate yourself you need to find impartial sources. Absorbing and regurgitating other people's opinions is not being educated, it being persuaded.

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    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    You're being ridiculous, Messi is way younger than me, we never had the chance to meet. If we had, then I may have swapped shirts with him, depending on how I felt, it's probably the closest he would've got to my shirt all game.

    As for you, you perrenial disappointment, deal with the issues and stop scuttling off to quote some hard right literature in order to reinforce your ****ed up views. Yours, with kisses, the greatest footballer who ever lived!
    Why shouldn't some people, if they wish, quote right wing literature? Are only left wing supporters allowed to do it? Just asking?

  18. #93

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    This is an opinion piece written by a right-wing, pro-police political commentator. It's not journalism. It holds no credibility.
    Exactly, I reckon that he's a multi, comes across like another WUM on here, who likes to provoke people with American right wing ideology.

  19. #94

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    To break it down into the simplest of terms. Taking a knee is a show of solidarity from the football world that racism won't be accepted.

    You have an issue with that then you need a long hard look in the mirror why and don't quote some bullshit article from people with agendas. Have a good think and come back to me with your reasons why.

  20. #95

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

    Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.
    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Why shouldn't some people, if they wish, quote right wing literature? Are only left wing supporters allowed to do it? Just asking?
    Of course you're allowed to do it, although in my opinion, it's just an opinion! I'd rather a more balanced view looking at both sides of an argument, or for people not to just agree with literature that they probably agreed with before they read it.That's how I look at things. Did I ever tell you how good I was at football.....

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    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Of course you're allowed to do it, although in my opinion, it's just an opinion! I'd rather a more balanced view looking at both sides of an argument, or for people not to just agree with literature that they probably agreed with before they read it.That's how I look at things. Did I ever tell you how good I was at football.....
    Yes, I think you did mention it.

  22. #97

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    This is an opinion piece written by a right-wing, pro-police political commentator. It's not journalism. It holds no credibility.
    So you’re saying the easily checked statistics quoted in the article, are made up?

    Yet a paper respected worldwide has chosen to print these ‘lies’, without fact checking.

    Get a grip.

  23. #98

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    To break it down into the simplest of terms. Taking a knee is a show of solidarity from the football world that racism won't be accepted.

    You have an issue with that then you need a long hard look in the mirror why and don't quote some bullshit article from people with agendas. Have a good think and come back to me with your reasons why.

  24. #99

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    So you’re saying the easily checked statistics quoted in the article, are made up?

    Yet a paper respected worldwide has chosen to print these ‘lies’, without fact checking.

    Get a grip.
    I didn't use the word 'lies', so please don't try to quote me on it. But I do think the WSJ would print a politically biased, opinion piece. Because they did. Newspapers do it all the time. Do you happen to know who owns the WSJ by the way?

  25. #100

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Please can someone, in simple terms, explain to me why grown up people who enjoy football, among other sports, find something to object about a few other people whom they don't know personally, squatting on their knees for a few seconds BEFORE a match?

    If the match got interrupted a few times for this performance DURING play then I could quite understand someone getting pissed off with it (I would). But BEFORE a match I really can't think of any reason why anyone would object other than they're being racist. I mean if there were some other quick gesture players performed to reject paedophilia for example just about all of us would applaud them; what would it say about the tiny minority who would object?

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