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  1. #1

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Of course you're right but not everyone isn't a racist, particularly some governments and institutions. To my mind it's a simple, free of charge gesture which keeps the issue in the limelight and gently pressurises people to change behaviour. I just think it's a no brainer.
    I don’t think think it does anything at all.

    I have no issue with people doing it, but I actually think it’s counter productive by causing division.

  2. #2

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    I would like to the see the knee followed by the raised first of defiance , solidarity and taking it to the man

    Fight the power

  3. #3

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I would like to the see the knee followed by the raised first of defiance , solidarity and taking it to the man

    Fight the power

    You forgot the Black Glove

  4. #4

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Did you even bother to read my post?
    Yes... doesn’t mean that you need to be invisible. I publicly show my support. I live in a small town of 20,000 people where people see that. You live in New Jersey

  5. #5

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    SKY are clueless, giving QPR of all teams a hard time.
    L
    This is a club that changed the historic name of their ground, to that of a murdered black youngster.

    Have possibly done more than any business or football club, to help with Grenfell.

    Plus, have a black Director of Football.

  6. #6

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story as the old saying goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    SKY are clueless, giving QPR of all teams a hard time.
    L
    This is a club that changed the historic name of their ground, to that of a murdered black youngster.

    Have possibly done more than any business or football club, to help with Grenfell.

    Plus, have a black Director of Football.
    They don't have a black owner though.

  7. #7

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    They don't have a black owner though.
    Oh I think they do, but not African Black.

  8. #8

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    They don't have a black owner though.
    Isn’t he ‘BAME‘ though, born in Malaysia.

    I’m sure that qualifies fir the current narrative.

  9. #9

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    If the grounds were at regular capacity’s supporters would start booing, and all this taking the knee would stop.

    Reason being the vast majority of supporters already abhor racism, and don’t want this rammed down our throats week in week out, with the BLM fist in the air.

    Plus, sport for many of us is about escapism, not political statements.

    This will never change racism, it needs to come from the way parents bring up the children of future generations.

  10. #10

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    If the grounds were at regular capacity’s supporters would start booing, and all this taking the knee would stop.

    Reason being the vast majority of supporters already abhor racism, and don’t want this rammed down our throats week in week out, with the BLM fist in the air.

    Plus, sport for many of us is about escapism, not political statements.

    This will never change racism, it needs to come from the way parents bring up the children of future generations.
    The fact some supporters would boo any attempt to highlight and promote anti racism says it all. 🙄

    The fact is most people that have a real problem with this are middle aged white men with fragile identity and egos.

    The sport isn't where we should raise things like this line is rubbish too. We need to raise it as a discussion point across the whole of society

  11. #11

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    The fact some supporters would boo any attempt to highlight and promote anti racism says it all. ��

    The fact is most people that have a real problem with this are middle aged white men with fragile identity and egos.

    The sport isn't where we should raise things like this line is rubbish too. We need to raise it as a discussion point across the whole of society

  12. #12

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    The fact some supporters would boo any attempt to highlight and promote anti racism says it all. ��

    The fact is most people that have a real problem with this are middle aged white men with fragile identity and egos.

    The sport isn't where we should raise things like this line is rubbish too. We need to raise it as a discussion point across the whole of society
    So why exactly are they doing it?

    Because of American career criminals?

    Here’s a suggestion as regards the statistical misnomer that the American police are victimising and murdering black people.

    * Don’t commit crimes

    * If you do commit crimes and the police have to address the issue, don’t resist.

    Here’s another statistical fact that doesn’t fit the current narrative. In America a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to lose their lives at the hands of a black person, as a black person is to lose their lives to a Police officer - FACT!

    Google and read a few articles in the Wall Street Journal on the subject, in June.

  13. #13

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    So why exactly are they doing it?

    Because of American career criminals?

    Here’s a suggestion as regards the statistical misnomer that the American police are victimising and murdering black people.

    * Don’t commit crimes

    * If you do commit crimes and the police have to address the issue, don’t resist.

    Here’s another statistical fact that doesn’t fit the current narrative. In America a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to lose their lives at the hands of a black person, as a black person is to lose their lives to a Police officer - FACT!

    Google and read a few articles in the Wall Street Journal on the subject, in June.
    I don't even have the time or effort to respond to that. Just wow.

  14. #14

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    I don't even have the time or effort to respond to that. Just wow.
    Educate yourself, instead of writing such garbage.

    https://www.encounterbooks.com/featu...police-racism/

  15. #15

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    So why exactly are they doing it?

    Because of American career criminals?

    Here’s a suggestion as regards the statistical misnomer that the American police are victimising and murdering black people.

    * Don’t commit crimes

    * If you do commit crimes and the police have to address the issue, don’t resist.

    Here’s another statistical fact that doesn’t fit the current narrative. In America a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to lose their lives at the hands of a black person, as a black person is to lose their lives to a Police officer - FACT!

    Google and read a few articles in the Wall Street Journal on the subject, in June.
    When you say FACT!!! presumably what you mean is nothing of the sort!

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfl...is-police-work

    In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer. Like a lot of people I have become more familiar with police-violence statistics in recent weeks than I ever really wanted to be, so I knew it was extremely unlikely that 18.5 times more police officers were killed by Black men than unarmed Black men were killed by police. In recent years about 50 U.S. law enforcement officers have been “feloniously killed” annually, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, while police and sheriff’s deputies have killed about 1,000 people a year, according to various sources.

  16. #16

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    So why exactly are they doing it?

    Because of American career criminals?

    Here’s a suggestion as regards the statistical misnomer that the American police are victimising and murdering black people.

    * Don’t commit crimes

    * If you do commit crimes and the police have to address the issue, don’t resist.

    Here’s another statistical fact that doesn’t fit the current narrative. In America a police officer is 18.5 times more likely to lose their lives at the hands of a black person, as a black person is to lose their lives to a Police officer - FACT!

    Google and read a few articles in the Wall Street Journal on the subject, in June.
    Black people get killed by the police during routine traffic stops. Or just living in their apartments. Walking down the stairs. Or hanging out in the park. How is anyone supposed to "don't do that"? You know what black people don't do in this country? Call the cops when they're in peril. Because they know it could be them that gets hurt or worse.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...ilando_Castile

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...Breonna_Taylor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...iana_Jefferson

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...#Stephon_Clark

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Tamir_Rice

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder...am_Jean#Victim

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...Alton_Sterling

    https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aj...mes/index.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...ey#Akai_Gurley


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...an-vice-versa/

  17. #17

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I have to say that reading other boards of this club a lot of those people who objecting to this knee issue are full on racists . I know several in fact and they have extreme far right views .

  18. #18

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird23 View Post
    SKY are clueless, giving QPR of all teams a hard time.
    L
    This is a club that changed the historic name of their ground, to that of a murdered black youngster.

    Have possibly done more than any business or football club, to help with Grenfell.

    Plus, have a black Director of Football.
    Let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story as the old saying goes.

  19. #19

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    I don’t think think it does anything at all.

    I have no issue with people doing it, but I actually think it’s counter productive by causing division.
    I think it does an awful lot. I'm glad you have no issue with it but why on Earth would it cause division? I mean it's not like having a red hot poker shoved up your arse!

    Now if the slogan had been "ONLY Black Lives Matter" I'd agree with you totally. Just like if the slogan had been "ONLY White Lives Matter". So, all in all, it's a very worthwhile campaign, I'm sure you'd agree.

  20. #20

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I have to say that reading other boards of this club a lot of those people who objecting to this knee issue are full on racists . I know several in fact and they have extreme far right views .
    I think I know exactly who you mean.

  21. #21

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I think I know exactly who you mean.
    I can't see a problem with footballers sending out the message that racism will not be forgotten about, It can go on indefinitely as far as i'm concerned. There are plenty of racists about who are a bit pissed off over it-good, that's more than enough reason the carry on.

  22. #22

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Watched the game yesterday and they mentioned it plenty of half time and full time. Tune in to SSN and they are talking it on there.

    I don't get the problem, was alright for a match when returning, even until the end of last season but are we making it an official part of the start of every match until someone says not to.

    Need to move on now , lots of folk irritated , lots of things wrong in the world.

  23. #23

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    The taking a knee is to raise awareness of and to fight back against racism. What this situation does nicely is identify closet racists.

    Chooses source that backs up his bullshit and thinks he's in the right, brilliant.
    Brilliant response, fair play; NAIL and HEAD springs to mind.

  24. #24

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I can't see a problem with footballers sending out the message that racism will not be forgotten about, It can go on indefinitely as far as i'm concerned. There are plenty of racists about who are a bit pissed off over it-good, that's more than enough reason the carry on.
    Well done Tuerto I salute you sir! Let's hope it makes all the racists squirm

  25. #25

    Re: Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I have to say that reading other boards of this club a lot of those people who objecting to this knee issue are full on racists . I know several in fact and they have extreme far right views .
    Is at least one from Pencoed and continually sucks up to A**is?

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