Sky making a big thing of QPR not taking the knee

[Bluebird23]

Maybe I’m sheltered in suburban wales, but I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen or heard something racist.

Is the UK actually full of hidden racists?

There isn’t a racist issue down the City, or most sports grounds.

I’ve been to hundreds, if not over a thousand sporting events, over the years.

I’ve heard one racial comment.

That was directed towards Nathan Blake when he played for Wales in the 90s, and I confronted the bloke.

Yes, there’ll be the odd racist at games, and pockets of racists in society, but in the whole the vast, vast majority of us abhor racism.

I don’t personally believe anyone would get away with making a comment at a game these days, without be challenged.

Particularly as Cardiff is a very inclusive, multicultural city.

But, this taking the knee.

Fine initially, but how long does it go on for?

I watch sport for escapism, not to be lectured that we’re a country of racists. We’re not.

Like the NFL in America bowing to the current narrative of allowing players to wear the names of convicted felons, on their helmets.

Yet, the league wouldn’t allow the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago to put the names of the five Police officers killed at the hands of a black man, that Summer.

Double standards.

One other thing I’d say about racism, is that it extends both ways.

There are many black people who can’t stand whites. Apparently, we’re all privileged and to be held to account for the disgraceful way black people were treated many years ago.

We are just as repulsed, as they are for some of that treatment.

Society has improved for the better.

But, taking a knee will never stop a racist, being a racist.

That needs to come from the way parents raise their kids.

[Tuerto]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.

[Tuerto]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

There isn’t a racist issue down the City, or most sports grounds.

I’ve been to hundreds, if not over a thousand sporting events, over the years.

I’ve heard one racial comment.

That was directed towards Nathan Blake when he played for Wales in the 90s, and I confronted the bloke.

Yes, there’ll be the odd racist at games, and pockets of racists in society, but in the whole the vast, vast majority of us abhor racism.

I don’t personally believe anyone would get away with making a comment at a game these days, without be challenged.

Particularly as Cardiff is a very inclusive, multicultural city.

But, this taking the knee.

Fine initially, but how long does it go on for?

I watch sport for escapism, not to be lectured that we’re a country of racists. We’re not.

Like the NFL in America bowing to the current narrative of allowing players to wear the names of convicted felons, on their helmets.

Yet, the league wouldn’t allow the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago to put the names of the five Police officers killed at the hands of a black man, that Summer.

Double standards.

One other thing I’d say about racism, is that it extends both ways.

There are many black people who can’t stand whites. Apparently, we’re all privileged and to be held to account for the disgraceful way black people were treated many years ago.

We are just as repulsed, as they are for some of that treatment.

Society has improved for the better.

But, taking a knee will never stop a racist, being a racist.

That needs to come from the way parents raise their kids.

Well done for having a personal opinion. It shows how I'll informed you are.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer

I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse

I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .

I know that

But I also know that you are a racist

[Brisbane CCFC]

They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer

I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse

I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .

I know that

But I also know that you are a racist

I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.

[Der Kaiser]

I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk

[Bluebird23]

I get that and well done for doing such great work. That is brilliant. But, one of the things that puts me off this board is you and your creepy objectification of women. Just saying, pull your ****ing head in mate. You come across as a complete sleazy ****er. Just my opinion like. It's like you have male karen messageboard Tourette syndrome.

Spot on, and he has the audacity to label anyone who offers a different view point, a racist.

Shame he doesn’t seem to care as much about the MeToo movement, as he does BLM.

This is a bloke who posts literally thousands of sexist’s comments about women, on a football messageboard.

A right misogynist weirdo!

[Bluebird23]

Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.

Maybe you should stick to posts telling everyone what an amazing footballer you were, and how Messi asked you to swap shirts after a game, and begged you to join him at Barcelona.

There are some people on this site who lap up that kind of stuff from a fantasist like yourself, who’s detached from reality!

[Brisbane CCFC]

Maybe you should stick to posts telling everyone what an amazing footballer you were, and how Messi asked you to swap shirts after a game, and begged you to join him at Barcelona.

There are some people on this site who lap up that kind of stuff from a fantasist like yourself, who’s detached from reality!

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[Bluebird23]

They are a piss take out of middle age blokes sitting in front of the computer

I used to work for a charity helping people with housing problems in Riverside and referred many young women to the police or womens aid after they disclosed information to me . And referred many more young women to cardiff single women's housing project which helped young women fleeing violenc sand abuse

I know that I am not a sexist misogynist , believe in equality for all and have actually supported vulnerable women and helped them escape violence and abuse and get the right support from the right agency .

I know that

But I also know that you are a racist

Christ, what women would ever want to confide in a seedy pervert like you!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Well done for having a personal opinion. It shows how I'll informed you are.

there have been lots of racist incidents at cardiff city matches home and away over the years to deny it happens is pathetic

Here is just a few

Bananas being thrown at Alex Williams man City Black keeper

I would rather be black than a swansea jack used to be sung at Swansea fans

Town full of pakis shouted at Bradford City and Oldham fans

All buksh the Asian referree being abused by cardiff fans from the Bob Bank

Coventry City away in the fa Cup, bus of supporters racially abusing Asian people near the ground

A poster on here who is of mixed raced being abused by cardiff fans at Charlton

Bloke arrested on Bob bank for doing a nazi salute

****ing ****** being shouted at a Stoke City player wasting time

Rather wear a turban than a rose often sang just before we left ninian park

Cardiff is a multi racial city and 16 percent of the city are from a non white background

How many people do you see from a multicultural background at cardiff matches ?

To deny that cardiff city doesn't have a racist element among its support and always has its blind

[Tuerto]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

Maybe you should stick to posts telling everyone what an amazing footballer you were, and how Messi asked you to swap shirts after a game, and begged you to join him at Barcelona.

There are some people on this site who lap up that kind of stuff from a fantasist like yourself, who’s detached from reality!

You're being ridiculous, Messi is way younger than me, we never had the chance to meet. If we had, then I may have swapped shirts with him, depending on how I felt, it's probably the closest he would've got to my shirt all game.

As for you, you perrenial disappointment, deal with the issues and stop scuttling off to quote some hard right literature in order to reinforce your ****ed up views. Yours, with kisses, the greatest footballer who ever lived!

[xsnaggle]

You're being ridiculous, Messi is way younger than me, we never had the chance to meet. If we had, then I may have swapped shirts with him, depending on how I felt, it's probably the closest he would've got to my shirt all game.

As for you, you perrenial disappointment, deal with the issues and stop scuttling off to quote some hard right literature in order to reinforce your ****ed up views. Yours, with kisses, the greatest footballer who ever lived!

Why shouldn't some people, if they wish, quote right wing literature? Are only left wing supporters allowed to do it? Just asking?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Christ, what women would ever want to confide in a seedy pervert like you!

Well one that would have been provided support advice and safe referral to specialised people and the police who could help her with her safety , support , rebuilding her life , getting somewhere to live

I must have been good at it or they would have sacked me

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Jason L riley, he's another ideological right wing commentator.Makes no difference what his skin colour is. You really need to reference people who have a bit of balance and are not selective -like you-with their research. Riley references the most basic issues within society then puts his spin on it. Open your eyes you massive tool.

Riley is a right wing liberarian idiot hanging himself

Hes going the neo nazis a great job

[jon1959]

Of course. If no-one apart from Hitler and a few of his fanatical followers had become Nazis then there would be nothing to stamp out. Simple.

Nothing apart from the millions of passive onlookers who over a few steins would agree with each other that the anti fascist demonstrations in Berlin were over the top, that the Nazis were basically good patriots who liked dressing up, that there is good and bad on both sides and that they Jews’ (and the socialists, gypsies, disabled and other victims and scapegoats) brought some or all of their troubles on themselves!

Racism cannot be ended just by individuals not giving out explicit racist abuse as a personal choice - which is how the original comment came over.

I think the BLM protests have reached a tipping point because of the length and weight of numbers involved, and the way prominent figures in sports have aligned themselves with it in visible and coordinated demonstrations before matches/events. But there is an equally determined push back - clear from many governing bodies and across social media. So now is not the time to stop, it is the time to step it up and expose the racists and their sometimes unwitting allies the complacent!

[Tuerto]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

This is an opinion piece written by a right-wing, pro-police political commentator. It's not journalism. It holds no credibility.

Exactly, I reckon that he's a multi, comes across like another WUM on here, who likes to provoke people with American right wing ideology.

[Tuerto]

This from a man who continually posts misogynist sexual comments about women, on thread after thread.

Your all for BLM, but appear to have no time for the #MeToo movement.

Why shouldn't some people, if they wish, quote right wing literature? Are only left wing supporters allowed to do it? Just asking?

Of course you're allowed to do it, although in my opinion, it's just an opinion! I'd rather a more balanced view looking at both sides of an argument, or for people not to just agree with literature that they probably agreed with before they read it.That's how I look at things. Did I ever tell you how good I was at football.....

[xsnaggle]

Of course you're allowed to do it, although in my opinion, it's just an opinion! I'd rather a more balanced view looking at both sides of an argument, or for people not to just agree with literature that they probably agreed with before they read it.That's how I look at things. Did I ever tell you how good I was at football.....

Yes, I think you did mention it.

[Dorcus]

Please can someone, in simple terms, explain to me why grown up people who enjoy football, among other sports, find something to object about a few other people whom they don't know personally, squatting on their knees for a few seconds BEFORE a match?

If the match got interrupted a few times for this performance DURING play then I could quite understand someone getting pissed off with it (I would). But BEFORE a match I really can't think of any reason why anyone would object other than they're being racist. I mean if there were some other quick gesture players performed to reject paedophilia for example just about all of us would applaud them; what would it say about the tiny minority who would object?

[Bluebird23]

Interesting on here the narrative is all black people are persecuted by the racist police.

Yet the easily checkable statistics, don’t bear that out.

Shame the two police officers in LA shot in the heads by a black man whilst sat in their patrol car, aren’t afforded the same level of sympathy.

Even worse, gangs of black people assembling outside the hospital they were taken to shouting ‘Let them die.’

Just imagine if this situation was reversed, there would outrage, riots, and condemnation worldwide.

The reason the police in America have so many interactions with black people, is they commit the most crime.

Nearly all the recent high profile incidents like Floyd and Blake, members of the public called them out to address issues.

They didn’t simply target these people because of their skin colour.

[Dorcus]

your pathetic I wont take the knee for anyone

Well I certainly wouldn't bow to anyone like the Queen for example so we're on common ground there.

[robjohn44]

I agree

[cyril evans awaydays]

I agree

Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing Robbo?

[Bluebird23]

Well one that would have been provided support advice and safe referral to specialised people and the police who could help her with her safety , support , rebuilding her life , getting somewhere to live

I must have been good at it or they would have sacked me

I’m sure any women that had to read your thousands of slimy sexist posts on here, would be able to judge you quite easily.

Get back to the Eighties, Wolfie!