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    Funny how some ‘educated’ folk chuck in a few big words, attempt to give a rousing political speech yet still can’t sort out ‘your’ from ‘you’re’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    The Labour party has attracted a greater number of middle class voters overwhelmingly because people with better education without being motivated by self-interest naturally understand the benefit of Socialism to everyone.

    Labour certainly hasn't abandoned the working class; they continue to look after the interests of low paid workers in a parlous employment climate.

    Labour lost the last election because a huge proportion of the public were taken in by the Brexit propaganda and fell for Boris Johnson's lies.

    I think it's you who needs to stop fantasising and take your head out of your arse or stop reading far right US websites. You might learn there are no Ivy League educational establishments in the UK.
    The Labour Party attracted remainers that didn’t think a vote for the Lib Dem’s would get the result they wanted.

    Calling things propaganda and lies just hardens views and pushes people away from the centre

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    The Labour Party attracted remainers that didn’t think a vote for the Lib Dem’s would get the result they wanted.

    Calling things propaganda and lies just hardens views and pushes people away from the centre
    In your opinion everything that doesn't fit your narrow agenda seems to push you away from the centre.

    The fact you vote tory and are pro brexit must have just been a mad coincidence I suppose.

    And if you don't think what Boris Johnson was saying was propaganda and lies you're in for a bit of a shock.

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    Where does Cousin It come into all this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    In your opinion everything that doesn't fit your narrow agenda seems to push you away from the centre.

    The fact you vote tory and are pro brexit must have just been a mad coincidence I suppose.

    And if you don't think what Boris Johnson was saying was propaganda and lies you're in for a bit of a shock.
    I never voted Brexit and is a labour member , but I know why people voted Brexit and accepted the vote, you are anti democracy Tony benn was anti eu so is George Galloway and rightly so both stalwarts of the labour party, nothing to do with being on the right. You are anti democratic you lost vote and still wont accept it talk about intolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    I never voted Brexit and is a labour member , but I know why people voted Brexit and accepted the vote, you are anti democracy Tony benn was anti eu so is George Galloway and rightly so both stalwarts of the labour party, nothing to do with being on the right. You are anti democratic you lost vote and still wont accept it talk about intolerant.
    Wasn't talking to you gluey

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    Peace brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    I’m seeing the more than occasional emergence of the use of gender pronouns by people across both email and social platforms.

    Email signatures or profile names tend to be followed with (she/her/hers) (they/them/theirs)(he/him/his).

    Little but significant moves towards equality
    Use Non-binary

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Hasn't uttered a word for a decade then suddenly he is in full flow. Sure that there are a number of theories why but I think he has been radicalised in prison.
    I see he's started posting on A**is' forum; no doubt he'll find his spiritual home there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    I see he's started posting on A**is' forum; no doubt he'll find his spiritual home there.
    Your pathetic even forums are now far right I assume nothing scary about the progressive left all they want is a fair and nice society.
    how can you not see your attitudes about other views is the problem,most people in this country are tolerant and friends/family
    are from all the groups you purport to be fighting for but I suppose when your revolution happens it wont be the people at the bottom who suffer ,yours will be different to every other one in history.
    I can guarantee nothing changes for us all apart from everything gets worse.
    we have a decade of real world problems coming and we have been set up to fight each other same old game just with a modern twist.Just because its looks like media/establishment is on your side at moment don't be fooled they know exactly what they are doing,just look at the media they don't give a shit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    Your pathetic even forums are now far right I assume nothing scary about the progressive left all they want is a fair and nice society.
    how can you not see your attitudes about other views is the problem,most people in this country are tolerant and friends/family
    are from all the groups you purport to be fighting for but I suppose when your revolution happens it wont be the people at the bottom who suffer ,yours will be different to every other one in history.
    I can guarantee nothing changes for us all apart from everything gets worse.
    we have a decade of real world problems coming and we have been set up to fight each other same old game just with a modern twist.Just because its looks like media/establishment is on your side at moment don't be fooled they know exactly what they are doing,just look at the media they don't give a shit .
    1) You are clearly not tolerant of transgender people
    2) Transgender people exist and their issues are 'real world problems'. Get outta your white, straight, cis-gendered bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by adz-a32 View Post
    1) You are clearly not tolerant of transgender people
    2) Transgender people exist and their issues are 'real world problems'. Get outta your white, straight, cis-gendered bubble
    what nice people defenders of trans are ? no reason at all to be scared ? not bullies just want to be nice to everyone ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I think it's you who needs to stop fantasising and take your head out of your arse . That isn't what the Labour Leader says.
    Hark who's talking with your head firmly rammed up your Tory arse. I'm not persuaded by what the Labour leader says thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Hark who's talking with your head firmly rammed up your Tory arse. I'm not persuaded by what the Labour leader says thank you.
    I don't have a tory arse, but it is evident that several of the self proclaimed socialist voters here do not in fact agree with what the labour party does. It seems a strange way to support them. And I think on balance more people would be persuaded by his argument about losing the election than they will be by yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    Your pathetic even forums are now far right I assume nothing scary about the progressive left all they want is a fair and nice society.
    how can you not see your attitudes about other views is the problem,most people in this country are tolerant and friends/family
    are from all the groups you purport to be fighting for but I suppose when your revolution happens it wont be the people at the bottom who suffer ,yours will be different to every other one in history.
    I can guarantee nothing changes for us all apart from everything gets worse.
    we have a decade of real world problems coming and we have been set up to fight each other same old game just with a modern twist.Just because its looks like media/establishment is on your side at moment don't be fooled they know exactly what they are doing,just look at the media they don't give a shit .
    Welcome back, we've missed your persuasive rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Welcome back, we've missed your persuasive rhetoric.
    fair play I like that reply. we probably agree on a lot..

  17. #17

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    Obviously in a social/work environment one would use an individual's preferred pronoun out of courtesy but as has been pointed out most of us won't even encounter this very often (nor have to announce his/her/their own). However, there are other complications. Where someone might have gender dysphoria and would need help and support, someone else might just like to wear a wig and dress sometimes and go by a female identity, depending on how they feel that day. It's interesting there doesn't seem to be a difference between transvestite and transsexual anymore and everyone is transgender. Transsexuals, as I understand it, are allowed access to female only spaces, but there are calls this policy should also include anyone who has no desire for hormonal treatment or surgery.

    Sex is immutable and as such one denies a material and objective reality when one calls a "he" a "she" (or vice versa), but in a lot of cases this is manageable. But a number of sex based rights, especially with regard to women only spaces are now being drawn into the argument. It's an interesting one, as well as nuanced and sensitive, which is probably why on this forum (and elsewhere) it's turned to carnage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Obviously in a social/work environment one would use an individual's preferred pronoun out of courtesy but as has been pointed out most of us won't even encounter this very often (nor have to announce his/her/their own). However, there are other complications. Where someone might have gender dysphoria and would need help and support, someone else might just like to wear a wig and dress sometimes and go by a female identity, depending on how they feel that day. It's interesting there doesn't seem to be a difference between transvestite and transsexual anymore and everyone is transgender. Transsexuals, as I understand it, are allowed access to female only spaces, but there are calls this policy should also include anyone who has no desire for hormonal treatment or surgery.

    Sex is immutable and as such one denies a material and objective reality when one calls a "he" a "she" (or vice versa), but in a lot of cases this is manageable. But a number of sex based rights, especially with regard to women only spaces are now being drawn into the argument. It's an interesting one, as well as nuanced and sensitive, which is probably why on this forum (and elsewhere) it's turned to carnage.
    Answer me this how do we know this is not all narcissim on steroids ? all humans beings think lifes not fair on them but changing things will solve everything, how come we just copy the California crap if this is all genuine asking for a friend in india.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    Answer me this how do we know this is not all narcissim on steroids ? all humans beings think lifes not fair on them but changing things will solve everything, how come we just copy the California crap if this is all genuine asking for a friend in india.
    Could you ask your friend in India to be a bit less vague and general and angry at everything? Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    what nice people defenders of trans are ? no reason at all to be scared ? not bullies just want to be nice to everyone ffs
    Get a sense of awareness. You are arguing against calling someone by their preferred pronoun, which is a basic act of human decency

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    Quote Originally Posted by robjohn44 View Post
    fair play I like that reply. we probably agree on a lot..
    Probably all things Cardiff City yes Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I don't have a tory arse, but it is evident that several of the self proclaimed socialist voters here do not in fact agree with what the labour party does. It seems a strange way to support them. And I think on balance more people would be persuaded by his argument about losing the election than they will be by yours.
    Your Brexit credentials are being displayed loud and clear Snag; I understand I've got no hope of ever getting through to your demographic. But please, spare a thought for the silent majority who don't possess your extreme views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Your Brexit credentials are being displayed loud and clear Snag; I understand I've got no hope of ever getting through to your demographic. But please, spare a thought for the silent majority who don't possess your extreme views.
    If it was a majority we wouldn't be talking about brexit. Is that too hard for you to grasp. Majority equals more than 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    If it was a majority we wouldn't be talking about brexit. Is that too hard for you to grasp. Majority equals more than 50%.
    "Silent" majority surely even you can grasp that. Only a minority of the country actually voted for Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    "Silent" majority surely even you can grasp that. Only a minority of the country actually voted for Brexit
    In a referendum traditionally the question asked is to change the status quo of whatever it is being voted on, and for a change the vote for change must be 50% (or whatever bench mark is set) plus 1 of the available votes, so if a million people can vote then for change 500,001 must vote for the change. So if 499,999 vote yes and 250,00 vote no then the Noes carry the day. Anyone who does not vote is considered to not want change. In this case I agree with you 100% that the silent majority carries the day.
    However somebody in UK recent political history changed the rules in order to manipulate the answer they wanted in a referendum and that opened the door for ever. This error was compounded by the percentage for change in the Brexit vote being set at 50% in stead of 60% where it should have been for such a momentous vote (But then all referenda should be for momentous things)
    If it is any consolation to you I vote to remain but I accept that the vote cast was to leave so I will abide by that. The people protesting were ( and some still are) just moaning because they lost the vote.
    If 'Remain' had won by the same small margin, the people now demanding another vote wouldn't be doing it, they'd be saying the vote is the vote and it should stand. That is the nature of people. It is why the trigger should have been set at 60%. But we are where we are, and forever crying and complaining about it is both pointless and undemocratic.
    Its like sludge continually saying less than half the population at the last election voted for the conservatives. If people couldn't be arsed to get up and vote then they have no room to complain. The got what they deserved.

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