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Thread: This passing out from the back malarkey

  1. #26

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Football is full of fads - and clubs who follow them. How many times do you see a PL side take a short corner, get closed down, pass back to another player, then back to a defender and even the keeper. Or take a free kick on the half way line and pass it back - and across - and back, and then ends up back with the keeper. Sides like Sheff. Utd and Leeds and many others have seen through 'the Emperors new Clothes' fashion of endless tapping the ball nowhere. It is[and was] as boring as sh*t as well, despite what the so-called pundits say..
    It's a bit like the game rock, paper, scissors. No matter which one you choose, or from a football perspective which playing system you operate, there is always an option that ultimately can be used to nullify the opposition.

    It may take time to work out the best way to counteract your opponent's style of play but with the right players who are fully drilled and confident it can be done.

    Going back to my original thread, more and more teams are pressing in numbers and it is becoming increasingly difficult to successfully navigate a way out of defence and catch your opponents undermanned further up the pitch. We are not talking about magicians like Iniesta and Xavi, who looked like they had the ball glued their feet. We are talking about the likes of Maguire, Stones and their ilk who are I'll prepared to adopt this high risk strategy.

    So many goals nowadays seem to be conceded this way in high profile matches, I wouldn't be surprised if teams start to re-evaluate its worth or at least use it more sparingly.

  2. #27

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Believe me Mozzer, I'm not an advocate of hoofball or launching the ball into Row Z at every opportunity. However, when all your players are being closed down at a rapid rate of knots and any option you take will likely put your team in trouble, it seems an unnecessary risk to take ALL the time. Be more prudent when you have been forced into a tight corner is what I'm saying.
    Villa showed exactly how to play against it yesterday, Leicester have done the same in some games.

  3. #28

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    It is a bit shite.
    It's not shit, far from it. I think it just depends on how you like to view football. I suspect you enjoy the cut and thrust style, fair enough in my book, I don't think that any team will prosper playing that way these days, although in a crude kind of way it can be enjoyable to watch.

  4. #29

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It's not shit, far from it. I think it just depends on how you like to view football. I suspect you enjoy the cut and thrust style, fair enough in my book, I don't think that any team will prosper playing that way these days, although in a crude kind of way it can be enjoyable to watch.

    Whoooooooooooooosh

  5. #30

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    It is a bit shite.
    He's talking out of his arse.

  6. #31

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    It is a bit shite.
    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    He's talking out of his arse.

    Ya, there’s a big hole in his story

  7. #32

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Whoooooooooooooosh
    Good one-Anal...In fairness, you can't really have that one as you do seem to think that anything modern is shite

  8. #33

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Good one-Anal...In fairness, you can't really have that one as you do seem to think that anything modern is shite

    Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

    Cortina every time

    I’m actually looking for one

  9. #34

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

    Cortina every time

    I’m actually looking for one
    I tend to agree. The back seats were bigger than the sofa that i've got now, and a Ford Granada was like a modern day self contained flat!

  10. #35

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Yes, I've just seen it on the BBC Sports website. I'm not one to gloat but........ok just a little bit lol
    square peg round hole skills ,one of the reason why smithies is between the sticks , Harris spotted he has the better distribution skills

  11. #36

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    square peg round hole skills ,one of the reason why smithies is between the sticks , Harris spotted he has the better distribution skills
    If you have total confidence in your players and they can play that way without ending up in trouble then fair enough but too many defenders (and goalkeepers) lack the cool head and skills needed in order to pull it off repeatedly, which is why forwards are now pressing in numbers, not singularly.

  12. #37

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

    Cortina every time

    I’m actually looking for one
    Im tempted by this a decent price imho

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCO...YAAOSwaxZfdbsE

    but also thinking of a 4 X 4 to go off-roading , need something to cheer me up

  13. #38

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

    Cortina every time

    I’m actually looking for one
    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    Im tempted by this a decent price imho

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCO...YAAOSwaxZfdbsE

    but also thinking of a 4 X 4 to go off-roading , need something to cheer me up

    That's an Escort, nowhere near the class of a Cortina

  14. #39

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    That's an Escort, nowhere near the class of a Cortina
    yea i fancy a Mk1 Escort , some of the rally models now are fetching £76 K

  15. #40

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    At the start of last season, we had a squad best suited to playing an extreme version of the long ball game and we were getting precisely nowhere playing it. For me the key word there is "extreme" - a side playing an extreme version of what its critics call "tippy tappy" football would be just as unsuccessful, and boring to watch, as we were under Warnock last autumn.

    Especially after lockdown, Neil Harris was able to introduce a style which while playing to the squad he inherited's strength in terms of physicality and direct play, also included more of a patient, passing approach. To try and attempt a complete transformation to a style our squad of a year ago were not suited to playing would have been madness and, almost certainly, produced less points than Warnock was able to grind out.

    This season, we have not been able to recapture the form we showed in May, June and July yet and there may be a temptation to go back to the style which I would say still favours the squad we have, but we played in a way that was better to watch while winning us more points post lockdown and, surely, we need to try to continue with a gradual change to a more modern way of playing the game?

  16. #41

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Football is full of fads - and clubs who follow them. How many times do you see a PL side take a short corner, get closed down, pass back to another player, then back to a defender and even the keeper. Or take a free kick on the half way line and pass it back - and across - and back, and then ends up back with the keeper. Sides like Sheff. Utd and Leeds and many others have seen through 'the Emperors new Clothes' fashion of endless tapping the ball nowhere. It is[and was] as boring as sh*t as well, despite what the so-called pundits say..
    hear hear...slowly killing the game for me.
    Fulham love to pass the ball..to death

  17. #42

    Re: This passing out from the back malarkey

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    hear hear...slowly killing the game for me.
    Fulham love to pass the ball..to death
    that Lord Bradwell, I didn't know he was a pufftah?

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