This passing out from the back malarkey

[Wales-Bales]

It's based on analytics, and it's only a relatively small group of managers (and players) who fully understand the system, and have the right support teams in place. The tactics change from game to game depending on the perceived weaknesses of the opposition players. Of course personal errors can be costly, so the top teams are constantly doing drills on the training pitch to minimise the risk.

[BLUETIT]

It's based on ANALlytics, and it's only a relatively small group of managers (and players) who fully understand the system, and have the right support teams in place. The tactics change from game to game depending on the perceived weaknesses of the opposition players. Of course personal errors can be costly, so the top teams are constantly doing drills on the training pitch to minimise the risk.

It is a bit shite.

[NYCBlue]

It is a bit shite.

He's talking out of his arse.

[BLUETIT]

It is a bit shite.

He's talking out of his arse.

Ya, there’s a big hole in his story

[Moodybluebird]

Football is full of fads - and clubs who follow them. How many times do you see a PL side take a short corner, get closed down, pass back to another player, then back to a defender and even the keeper. Or take a free kick on the half way line and pass it back - and across - and back, and then ends up back with the keeper. Sides like Sheff. Utd and Leeds and many others have seen through 'the Emperors new Clothes' fashion of endless tapping the ball nowhere. It is[and was] as boring as sh*t as well, despite what the so-called pundits say..

It's a bit like the game rock, paper, scissors. No matter which one you choose, or from a football perspective which playing system you operate, there is always an option that ultimately can be used to nullify the opposition.

It may take time to work out the best way to counteract your opponent's style of play but with the right players who are fully drilled and confident it can be done.

Going back to my original thread, more and more teams are pressing in numbers and it is becoming increasingly difficult to successfully navigate a way out of defence and catch your opponents undermanned further up the pitch. We are not talking about magicians like Iniesta and Xavi, who looked like they had the ball glued their feet. We are talking about the likes of Maguire, Stones and their ilk who are I'll prepared to adopt this high risk strategy.

So many goals nowadays seem to be conceded this way in high profile matches, I wouldn't be surprised if teams start to re-evaluate its worth or at least use it more sparingly.

[Tuerto]

It is a bit shite.

It's not shit, far from it. I think it just depends on how you like to view football. I suspect you enjoy the cut and thrust style, fair enough in my book, I don't think that any team will prosper playing that way these days, although in a crude kind of way it can be enjoyable to watch.

[BLUETIT]

It's not shit, far from it. I think it just depends on how you like to view football. I suspect you enjoy the cut and thrust style, fair enough in my book, I don't think that any team will prosper playing that way these days, although in a crude kind of way it can be enjoyable to watch.

Whoooooooooooooosh

[Tuerto]

Whoooooooooooooosh

Good one-Anal...In fairness, you can't really have that one as you do seem to think that anything modern is shite

[BLUETIT]

Good one-Anal...In fairness, you can't really have that one as you do seem to think that anything modern is shite

Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

Cortina every time

I’m actually looking for one

[Tuerto]

Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

Cortina every time

I’m actually looking for one

I tend to agree. The back seats were bigger than the sofa that i've got now, and a Ford Granada was like a modern day self contained flat!

[blue matt]

Ford Focus v Ford Cortina ??

Cortina every time

I’m actually looking for one

Im tempted by this a decent price imho

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCO...YAAOSwaxZfdbsE

but also thinking of a 4 X 4 to go off-roading , need something to cheer me up

[Moodybluebird]

square peg round hole skills ,one of the reason why smithies is between the sticks , Harris spotted he has the better distribution skills

If you have total confidence in your players and they can play that way without ending up in trouble then fair enough but too many defenders (and goalkeepers) lack the cool head and skills needed in order to pull it off repeatedly, which is why forwards are now pressing in numbers, not singularly.

[the other bob wilson]

At the start of last season, we had a squad best suited to playing an extreme version of the long ball game and we were getting precisely nowhere playing it. For me the key word there is "extreme" - a side playing an extreme version of what its critics call "tippy tappy" football would be just as unsuccessful, and boring to watch, as we were under Warnock last autumn.

Especially after lockdown, Neil Harris was able to introduce a style which while playing to the squad he inherited's strength in terms of physicality and direct play, also included more of a patient, passing approach. To try and attempt a complete transformation to a style our squad of a year ago were not suited to playing would have been madness and, almost certainly, produced less points than Warnock was able to grind out.

This season, we have not been able to recapture the form we showed in May, June and July yet and there may be a temptation to go back to the style which I would say still favours the squad we have, but we played in a way that was better to watch while winning us more points post lockdown and, surely, we need to try to continue with a gradual change to a more modern way of playing the game?

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Football is full of fads - and clubs who follow them. How many times do you see a PL side take a short corner, get closed down, pass back to another player, then back to a defender and even the keeper. Or take a free kick on the half way line and pass it back - and across - and back, and then ends up back with the keeper. Sides like Sheff. Utd and Leeds and many others have seen through 'the Emperors new Clothes' fashion of endless tapping the ball nowhere. It is[and was] as boring as sh*t as well, despite what the so-called pundits say..

hear hear...slowly killing the game for me.
Fulham love to pass the ball..to death

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

hear hear...slowly killing the game for me.
Fulham love to pass the ball..to death

that Lord Bradwell, I didn't know he was a pufftah?