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    Premier League Reform

    I see the bigger clubs want more say when it comes to future changes to the league.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54499998

    I agree in principle with some of the suggestions but others need more detail than the Beeb provide

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    Re: Premier League Reform

    If it’s coming from the big clubs then any long term benefit will almost certainly be in their favour.
    Obviously I’m not privy to anything more than the BB C report but protected status for certain clubs and a reduction in teams to 18 sounds like the start of a ring fencing of the PL.
    The bail out to the lower league clubs sounds like a nice gesture but once that has gone then what?
    You always have to question the long term plans in these moves and experience suggests the ordinary supporters are the least least likely to benefit . You never know but am wary of the way this plays out.

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    PL and many EFL clubs are fuming with Rick Parry. His position is untenable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    PL and many EFL clubs are fuming with Rick Parry. His position is untenable.
    He is a colossal idiot. There is no way this is good for the EFL.

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    I believe things can't stay as they are, post Covid could see some clubs falter anyway, if by reducing the Premiership to 18 that would enhance the quality in our league , sadly the bottom clubs will be adversely effected , if by accepting this deal the Premiership provides substantial compensation to the EFL clubs would that not be a postive and save some clubs ?.

    Sadly doing nothing Is not an option, whatever is decided the EFL needs help, and the Premiership has the dosh and tools to help, so I guess its naturally going to favour the bigger clubs , whatever deal comes forward someone will be upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I believe things can't stay as they are, post Covid could see some clubs falter anyway, if by reducing the Premiership to 18 that would enhance the quality in our league , sadly the bottom clubs will be adversely effected , if by accepting this deal the Premiership provides substantial compensation to the EFL clubs would that not be a postive and save some clubs ?.

    Sadly doing nothing Is not an option, whatever is decided the EFL needs help, and the Premiership has the dosh and tools to help, so I guess its naturally going to favour the bigger clubs , whatever deal comes forward someone will be upset.
    It may benefit the smaller EFL clubs in League One and League Two, but the removal of parachute payments would make it incredibly difficult for any team getting promoted from the Championship to stay in the Premier League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    It may benefit the smaller EFL clubs in League One and League Two, but the removal of parachute payments would make it incredibly difficult for any team getting promoted from the Championship to stay in the Premier League.
    Why do you think that, LC? Not sure I follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    It may benefit the smaller EFL clubs in League One and League Two, but the removal of parachute payments would make it incredibly difficult for any team getting promoted from the Championship to stay in the Premier League.
    do you mean because they'd be less likely to spend money when they got promotion because there'd be no safety net if they went down after one season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Why do you think that, LC? Not sure I follow.
    How could a newly promoted club afford to strengthen its squad without the safety net of parachute payments if they go straight back down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    do you mean because they'd be less likely to spend money when they got promotion because there'd be no safety net if they went down after one season?
    Exactly. Imagine how much money Tan would have let us spend after we got promoted a couple of years ago and there weren't any parachute payments.

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    The ending of parachute payments would mean promoted clubs insisting on a ‘relegation clause’ in prospective signing’s contracts with a significant drop in salary should they immediately go down perhaps. Would they and their agents readily agree to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The ending of parachute payments would mean promoted clubs insisting on a ‘relegation clause’ in prospective signing’s contracts with a significant drop in salary should they immediately go down perhaps. Would they and their agents readily agree to this?
    They'd have no choice perhaps the Existing parachute payment scheme creates the wrong behaviours for clubs , agent's and players.

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    Re: Premier League Reform

    If they scrap the voting rights changes this may have some legs otherwise there's no chance. If it did get passed the big six could change future rules without anyone else having a say which is dangerous to the future of the game.

    Is 25% of Premier League TV deals better than the current offer?

    I'm not bothered about the end of the community shield as it hasn't benefited Charity for years.

    While they are at it the academy system needs an overhaul to give the youngsters competitive games against men

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    United , Liverpool, Everton , Spurs and Arsenal dragged the rest of the top flight into becoming the greedy league many years ago

    It stinks , the whole of it

    I love it when clubs like Burnley or Watford go up and stay up for a few years and upset the big boys

    I wish we had managed to stay up and naff everyone off but it wasn't to be

    The beautiful game has turned into a cash cow and now football is hitting hard times any sense of a community is off the table

    Money talks and bullshit walks

    Thatcher is rubbing her hands with glee

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    Re: Premier League Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    PL and many EFL clubs are fuming with Rick Parry. His position is untenable.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    He is a colossal idiot. There is no way this is good for the EFL.

    Just listened to him on the BBC, he was totally in favour of it !

    You could see the bulging envelopes of cash sticking out of his back pockets.

    The girl interviewing finished with a sarky remark, something like "you can see where his loyalties lie"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Just listened to him on the BBC, he was totally in favour of it !

    You could see the bulging envelopes of cash sticking out of his back pockets.

    The girl interviewing finished with a sarky remark, something like "you can see where his loyalties lie"
    Parry was Premier League and Liverpool FC CEO, EFL clubs shouldn't be surprised as to his outlook on the game but looking at the link below it seems like the clubs had little say to put him in the role in the first place?

    https://www.efl.com/news/2018/octobe...for-efl-chair/

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    Latest in a long line of steps that ultimately lead to a closed shop premier league (or perhaps european super league - hell maybe a global league). With franchise teams representing different areas.

    The billionaire investors controlling the big clubs have long been coveting the kind of earnings that the NFL franchises generate

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    Wasn’t Parry the one who we contributed £5m to for his leaving gift from the premier league? To thank him for all those years of service to a league we only spent two seasons in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grangenders View Post
    Wasn’t Parry the one who we contributed £5m to for his leaving gift from the premier league? To thank him for all those years of service to a league we only spent two seasons in...
    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grangenders View Post
    Wasn’t Parry the one who we contributed £5m to for his leaving gift from the premier league? To thank him for all those years of service to a league we only spent two seasons in...
    That was Richard Scudamore.

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    Man Utd leading this says everything really, a very big business but representative of the idea that football is only about 'the product' now. I don't actually know anybody who watches the Premier League for entertainment anymore, if betting was banned the audience in the UK would drop massively.

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    Re: Premier League Reform

    Forest Green says 'yay'; West Ham says 'nay'.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54505270

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Man Utd leading this says everything really, a very big business but representative of the idea that football is only about 'the product' now. I don't actually know anybody who watches the Premier League for entertainment anymore, if betting was banned the audience in the UK would drop massively.
    Of course they watch it for entertainment

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    None of this will make any difference whilst the obscene financial parasites aka Agents are operating the way they are.

    Players need to start taking personal responsibility too, especially when ground and support staff are being made redundant. I'm unaware of Premier League players being made redundant, even though, professionally, they're doing no more each week than completing a televised training session. Home and away matches - totally meaningless.

    Meanwhile the Premier League want PPV being played in massive, empty stadia.

    Premier league clubs have been involved in £1bn of transfer deals this last close season yet there are some players who take a couple of weeks to amass the £500,000 that Macclesfield needed to stay afloat.

    The whole of professional football stinks and the sooner it comes crashing down the better. Covid should be that catalyst because football will survive. Clubs will reform. Fans should be the primary shareholders and we shouldn't be aspiring to global football.

    One final point on this. The proposals seem very similar to the kind of disproportionate power the likes of Ferrari and Mercedes have in F1.

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    Re: Premier League Reform

    The premier league being 18 clubs, making it more difficult to get promoted and stay up, and future decisions being determined by clubs who increasingly want to become global brands instead of football clubs is worrying for a side not already in that division.

    Scrapping the league cup, even if our day at Wembley was fantastic, and spreading wealth more throughout leagues is a fair idea.

    Not sure how much more big six need to make premier league closed shop though. 10 of the premier league clubs are London, Manchester and Liverpool based and with global interest in these three cities it's already much, much more difficulty for a side away from this to compete. Seemingly, the only way to do it is to spend £100 million every summer window or build strong relations with a super-agent so you're part of their global family.

    Hopefully fans of these big clubs reject the idea remembering that at least three of the protected clubs have been in Championship or lower within recent history.

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