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Thread: Harry Wilson - Speculation thread

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    Harry Wilson - Speculation thread

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...inked-19097235

    I'd love it if we could bring him and Woodrow in. Almost certainly won't happen, but its nice to dream

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    We should try to buy Wilson. He's never going make it at Liverpool.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    We should try to buy Wilson. He's never going make it at Liverpool.
    I doubt you could afford him. Apparently Liverpool turned down a £12 million bid from Burnley and want £20 million for him.

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    all these names linked have been mentioned on the internet by random websites and then elaborated by Wales On Line .

    I'm surprised they did not tweet 20 times that Joe Bennett was linked to Stoke because of a typo on here

    They asked a question 'should cardiff go for harry wilson' and then ran it as a story linking wilson to cardiff and swansea.

    social media journalism and at a level no higher than our speculation. Joe Lovejoy, Karl Woodward, Terry Phillips, Rob Phillips etc never went this low for clickbait articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    all these names linked have been mentioned on the internet by random websites and then elaborated by Wales On Line .

    I'm surprised they did not tweet 20 times that Joe Bennett was linked to Stoke because of a typo on here

    They asked a question 'should cardiff go for harry wilson' and then ran it as a story linking wilson to cardiff and swansea.

    social media journalism and at a level no higher than our speculation. Joe Lovejoy, Karl Woodward, Terry Phillips, Rob Phillips etc never went this low for clickbait articles.
    It is pretty dire and those dreadul advertising that pops up between the paragraphs are awful ,I avoid it now .

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    The pessimist in me says what’s the point in bringing Wilson in when we’re going nowhere. Save the wages

    If it came off (which it certainly won’t) Would be a good addition but will he play the 10 or slightly wider

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Can you still buy hard copies of the Western Mail and the Echo?

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Can you still buy hard copies of the Western Mail and the Echo?
    yeah. and the echo is now on sale in the morning!!!

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    John Percy at the Telegraph is saying we are in for him. He's about as reputable as it gets. Derby, Forest and the Jacks are in the chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    John Percy at the Telegraph is saying we are in for him. He's about as reputable as it gets. Derby, Forest and the Jacks are in the chase.
    wow that would be a bit of a coup.

    Maybe he'd like to link up with Kieffer Moore and Will Vaulks all season ahead of the euro's

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    wow that would be a bit of a coup.

    Maybe he'd like to link up with Kieffer Moore and Will Vaulks all season ahead of the euro's
    Jacks are in the driving seat for his signature evidently. Liverpool are seemingly impressed with the way Brewster came on down there which increased his sale value, guess they are hoping Cooper can add value to Wilson too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    all these names linked have been mentioned on the internet by random websites and then elaborated by Wales On Line .

    I'm surprised they did not tweet 20 times that Joe Bennett was linked to Stoke because of a typo on here

    They asked a question 'should cardiff go for harry wilson' and then ran it as a story linking wilson to cardiff and swansea.

    social media journalism and at a level no higher than our speculation. Joe Lovejoy, Karl Woodward, Terry Phillips, Rob Phillips etc never went this low for clickbait articles.
    They do it often, it's so poor.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by cityhammer View Post
    Jacks are in the driving seat for his signature evidently. Liverpool are seemingly impressed with the way Brewster came on down there which increased his sale value, guess they are hoping Cooper can add value to Wilson too!
    yep that's a good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityhammer View Post
    Jacks are in the driving seat for his signature evidently. Liverpool are seemingly impressed with the way Brewster came on down there which increased his sale value, guess they are hoping Cooper can add value to Wilson too!
    also unlikely that Liverpool would want to loan us 2 right wingers as it means that one of them isn't getting game time

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    also unlikely that Liverpool would want to loan us 2 right wingers as it means that one of them isn't getting game time
    Thats ok then because Wilson isn't a right winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Thats ok then because Wilson isn't a right winger.
    Glad he's got political sense, then.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Thats ok then because Wilson isn't a right winger.
    I mean, he's played there more times than in all other positions put together, but ok

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    I doubt you could afford him. Apparently Liverpool turned down a £12 million bid from Burnley and want £20 million for him.
    One of the things wrong with football, clubs having players that they reckon are worth £20m yet they’re nowhere near their first team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    One of the things wrong with football, clubs having players that they reckon are worth £20m yet they’re nowhere near their first team.
    Or worth 20mm.
    Harry Wilson is 23 and has only really performed at Championship Level, i suspect that's his limit, not sure he'll kick on going on loan every season, shirley he needs to settle somewhere to do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Or worth 20mm.
    Harry Wilson is 23 and has only really performed at Championship Level, i suspect that's his limit, not sure he'll kick on going on loan every season, shirley he needs to settle somewhere to do that?
    Wilson got 7 premier league goals last season in a struggling side, which is more than many of Liverpool’s midfield players, more than Origi, only 2 fewer than Firmino and the same amount as their new £40m signing Jota. Only one season so a limited sample, but given he’s still young there’s still the potential for him to be a competent premier league player for a mid ranking team.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Or worth 20mm.
    Harry Wilson is 23 and has only really performed at Championship Level, i suspect that's his limit, not sure he'll kick on going on loan every season, shirley he needs to settle somewhere to do that?
    A top championship player is worth 15m at least these days.
    Wilson has demonstrated that he can perform in the premier league (without being outstanding at that level so far) and at 23 there is still a potential upside to that figure.

    I think £20m is about right, but you can't blame someone chancing their arm with a bit of £12m in this current market.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    One of the things wrong with football, clubs having players that they reckon are worth £20m yet they’re nowhere near their first team.
    They'd have got 20m pre COVID. Easily. Bournemouth want 50m for Brooks.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Swbluebird View Post
    Wilson got 7 premier league goals last season in a struggling side, which is more than many of Liverpool’s midfield players, more than Origi, only 2 fewer than Firmino and the same amount as their new £40m signing Jota. Only one season so a limited sample, but given he’s still young there’s still the potential for him to be a competent premier league player for a mid ranking team.
    That stat has absolutely zero relevance.

    I'll stick to my guns here and say he's destined for a very successful career in the 2nd tier of English football (like most of the current welsh team) and there is absolutely no shame in that.

    I hope he proves me wrong, i really do.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    They'd have got 20m pre COVID. Easily. Bournemouth want 50m for Brooks.
    Wasn't this summer the highest ever spending for the Premier League?

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    That stat has absolutely zero relevance.

    I'll stick to my guns here and say he's destined for a very successful career in the 2nd tier of English football (like most of the current welsh team) and there is absolutely no shame in that.

    I hope he proves me wrong, i really do.
    As an attacking midfield player, who is generally tasked with the scoring and creation of goals, I'd say it has a fair amount of relevance.

    Scoring goals in the Premier League is not an easy job, Wilson did a reasonably good job of that last season.
    He seemed to tail off towards the latter part of the campaign, specifically when Bournemouth's form went off a cliff (as did the form of most of their squad), but to all but write him off after a promising, if unspectacular first season at that level is just overly negative.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Or worth 20mm.
    Harry Wilson is 23 and has only really performed at Championship Level, i suspect that's his limit, not sure he'll kick on going on loan every season, shirley he needs to settle somewhere to do that?
    20mm!!! That’s less than an inch

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Swbluebird View Post
    As an attacking midfield player, who is generally tasked with the scoring and creation of goals, I'd say it has a fair amount of relevance.

    Scoring goals in the Premier League is not an easy job, Wilson did a reasonably good job of that last season.
    He seemed to tail off towards the latter part of the campaign, specifically when Bournemouth's form went off a cliff (as did the form of most of their squad), but to all but write him off after a promising, if unspectacular first season at that level is just overly negative.
    That'll be a great comfort for Bournemouth.

    Not overly negative, I like Harry Wilson and think he's a fine player but i suspect that unless he finds a team where he can feature regularly he'll not kick on. Which is what i said in my original post. The reality now looking like another season in the Championship. Maybe, just maybe that's where he belongs?

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    One of the things wrong with football, clubs having players that they reckon are worth £20m yet they’re nowhere near their first team.
    He's not worth £20M. He's a good Championship player. If he was English, he wouldn't get near their national team.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Most of the latest online noise suggests Swansea are favourites to land Wilson on loan - because Liverpool are no longer insisting on a sale (will agree a season loan) and because of the successful Brewster loan last season. They play football 'the right way' you know!

    Derby and Forest also reported to have tabled loan bids to Liverpool. Cardiff and Norwich usually mentioned in dispatches as 'interested'.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    looks like we shot our bolt too early with Ojo

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