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  1. #1

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I thought Wilson was pretty poor in the last two Wales matches. I say that not because I don't want him here (I think he is, at least, a good Championship level player), but more from the point of view that some of our fans' very high expectations of him may not be met.

    Also, if it is true that there is a loan fee pf £3 million to be paid for the player, wouldn't that be more than we would probably have to pay to sign Woodrow permanently?

    With Wilson, the only way I can see him signing for us permanently is if we were to go up this season and there has been little so far to suggest that is going to happen. With Woodrow there would be the possibility that we could sell him at a profit if he played to his potential for us.

    Of course, the possibility that we have Woodrow and Wilson on our books by this time tomorrow cannot be discounted, but I would have thought there would have to be one or maybe two significant departures from the first team squad today for that to happen.
    I'm hoping that his last few Wales performances have been down to a lack of game time so far this season rather than a lack of quality. When he's had regular games under his bet at this level he's been quality and the exact thing that we've been missing, I'm looking forward to this coming off.

  2. #2

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Id be pissed off if we pay any sort of loan fee to them. They can feck off.

  3. #3

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Zowhore View Post
    Is that a yes or a no ??
    I’m taking it as he’s not quite as connected as he once was, which’d be a shame

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  5. #5

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Let's hope were picking up a lad with the right attitude and desire to play for us, he won't come cheap, I do wonder with his talent why it hasn't sparked interest elsewhere for his signature.??

  6. #6

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    I don’t think that’s too bad.
    I disagree with these loan fees but accepting they are inevitable these days it is pretty reasonable.

  7. #7

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbridge Blue View Post
    I don't want to disable my Adblocker (even for a short time) so can't copy a link but from what I can see of the Mail Online at 5.00am UK time seems to be indicating that 'Harry Wilson set for Cardiff season-long loan'. It certainly does indicate the deal is near 3million and that the player is in talks with Cardiff.
    Odds of 1/5 would suggest it's more than likely.

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  9. #9

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/

  10. #10

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/
    https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/statu...919415296?s=21

    Paul Joyce saying it’s done, so it’s done.

  11. #11

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/
    We are interested in him too but seeing the same as you. Cardiff medical. A very good loan signing and the loan fee is fair

  12. #12

    Re: Harry Wilson

    I wonder if it's a case of staying in the game until deadline day, at which point the fee might be different

  13. #13

    Re: Harry Wilson

    It's going to take him a month or two to get up to speed but a very good player at championship level with still room to grow if we get an unlikely promotion.

    We're told we're looking at two players and could still end up with no one. Trouble is, I think we're two players away from being as good as last year when, despite finishing fifth, we squeezed into the play-offs. Are the standards of last year good enough to get back into play-offs this year?

  14. #14

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    It's going to take him a month or two to get up to speed but a very good player at championship level with still room to grow if we get an unlikely promotion.

    We're told we're looking at two players and could still end up with no one. Trouble is, I think we're two players away from being as good as last year when, despite finishing fifth, we squeezed into the play-offs. Are the standards of last year good enough to get back into play-offs this year?
    I think we are a side that could finish anywhere between 5th and 22nd.

  15. #15

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I wonder if it's a case of staying in the game until deadline day, at which point the fee might be different
    James Pearce in the Athletic saying we've paid £1m and are covering his wages. I'm very excited though, he's a Premier League talent.

  16. #16

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    James Pearce in the Athletic saying we've paid £1m and are covering his wages. I'm very excited though, he's a Premier League talent.
    https://www.sportekz.com/football/li...yers-salaries/

    This dubious link suggests he's on 60k - I can't imagine we'd be prepared to pay that much.
    It's probably not correct though is it?

  17. #17

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Sky Sports breaking news headline is Liverpool agree 1.2m loan move with Cardiff.

  18. #18

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Sky Sports breaking news headline is Liverpool agree 1.2m loan move with Cardiff.
    You are apparently paying his wages too but it’s a fair deal for a top end Championship player.

  19. #19

    Re: Harry Wilson

    I'm tired of worrying or thinking too much in terms of the clubs finances, do enough of that balancing at home. So as a supporter of Cardiff City I think that would be a terrific signing, just what we need.

  20. #20

    Re: Harry Wilson

    One of the most exciting signings we've had in a while if it comes off.

  21. #21

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    You are apparently paying his wages too but it’s a fair deal for a top end Championship player.
    Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.

  22. #22

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.
    imagine we'd signed him on a 3 year contract, for 3 times that loan fee, nobody would be complaining then?

    the only thing we don't get is any resale value, but that doesn't seem to have been much of a consideration in many of our signings over the past 5 years

  23. #23

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.
    We paid £3 million for Vydra on loan for a season a few years ago. Liverpool value Wilson at £15 million plus having turned down a £12 million bid from Burnley. I think this is a very decent deal for Cardiff and would have felt that way if Reading had signed him. He is worth the loan fee.

  24. #24

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.
    It compares favourably to other deals in recent years.

    Take Flint for example...

    Signed for £4m in the summer of 2019 on a 3 year contract. £1m/year salary cost. So total cost £7m... £2.3m a year.


    Total cost of Wilson deal £1.2m plus 7 months salary...£2.3m?!

    One gives us a chance at promotion, the other doesn't.

  25. #25

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ger27 View Post
    It compares favourably to other deals in recent years.

    Take Flint for example...

    Signed for £4m in the summer of 2019 on a 3 year contract. £1m/year salary cost. So total cost £7m... £2.3m a year.


    Total cost of Wilson deal £1.2m plus 7 months salary...£2.3m?!

    One gives us a chance at promotion, the other doesn't.
    Isaac Vassell, 3m fee, 1m a year wages and he will have played about 10 minutes.

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