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  1. #76

    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    How anyone believes that Wales is doing well, beggers belief. Under which metric of success would you say we are doing well?
    A lot of Wales’s problems are social ones

  2. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    the Tories have donations measured in millions, I'd be surprised if YesCymru had donations measured in thousands.

    When you look at the Welsh results, the Tories polled better than Plaid Cymru at the last election. That says all you need to know about where the Welsh see their future. Around 10% vote for Plaid, and its not getting any higher than that.

    Leaving the union would be economic suicide, as we have nothing much to offer the English in terms of trade.
    Just like leaving Europe will be economic suicide.

  3. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    What currency would Wales be able to use if it became independent?
    Pit Coin?

  4. #79

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    If Drakeford had his way it'd be the Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gifaffe View Post
    If Drakeford had his way it'd be the Mark.
    Drakema

  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by lincoln blue View Post
    It's a NO from me, a Welsh speaker, especially while the present bunch of no marks are down The Bay.
    Have elections with a better class of politician and I may change my mind, only might because I think we'd be pushing it to be financially better off alone as I think Scotland would too.
    The class of Tory politician leading the country have really set the bar high haven't they?

  7. #82

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    Plaid cymru are actually a very socialist party and I should support them as they are far more socialist than the labour party will ever be

    But they want independence which will never work and that Adam price is clueless

    I couldn't vote for a nationalist party

  8. #83

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    The best way to generate jobs in South Wales is to by pass the grid lock on the M4 around Newport. On occasions I have been stuck in traffic as far back as Magor. The solution is in the hands of the Welsh government. There are areas of England that are equally as deprived as South Wales. When I visit Cardiff I am always amazed at how good the infrastructure is compared with South West England for example.

  9. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by lennybluebird View Post
    Wales as is the case with Scotland will never be independent, if there not hitched up to England then they will be hitched up to Germany via brussels....people died to stop this in two wars.
    History really isn't your thing is it (rhetorical)?

  10. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    let's use the euro
    The requirements for gaining entry to the EU and to use the Euro would never be met by Wales and Scotland would struggle. A country is unable to decide on its currency on its own but I guess you must know that.

  11. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    What currency would Wales be able to use if it became independent?
    If only there were recent examples of countries gaining independence and introducing their own currency, Wales wouldn't have to worry about being pioneers.

  12. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Plaid cymru are actually a very socialist party and I should support them as they are far more socialist than the labour party will ever be

    But they want independence which will never work and that Adam price is clueless

    I couldn't vote for a nationalist party
    Agree, the previous manifesto was almost anarcho syndicalist.

  13. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    Its called a metaphor. It wasn't literal
    What does Wales have in common with Chad?

  14. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    If only there were recent examples of countries gaining independence and introducing their own currency, Wales wouldn't have to worry about being pioneers.
    Agreed currency is often touted as a sticking point in the Indy Scotland debate but really isn’t a major issue. But I would be very surprised if we didn’t follow Scotland with whatever they do, in which the Euro is a possibility.

  15. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Ireland is almost a Tax Haven for the blue chips.
    And that approach wouldn’t necessarily work here. A race to the bottom on corporation tax only works for so long.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    With all due respect Irish GDP is vastly inflated with the double Irish set up for large multinationals.

    A large part of Irish GDP does not feed through to Ireland. If you strip out the multinationals who don't actually spend their money in Ireland, you'll see a lower GDP more in line with Northern Ireland.
    Ireland looks pretty good to me:

    http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/c...604%20a%20year.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearPig View Post
    Don't we get more money from West minster than we put in?

    What would Wales build upon to become self sufficient?

    These are genuine questions by the way, I don't actually know what yes cymrus plans are.

    Also, why is it yes Cymru and not ydw Cymru?
    Build on? How about Wales' major sectors:

    Agriculture, Aerospace, Construction, Electronics, Emergency Services, Food, Forestry, Manufacturing, Oil & Gas, Renewable Energy, Services, Textile, Tourism, Transport.

    Took 5 seconds to find on Wikipedia...

  18. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Build on? How about Wales' major sectors:

    Agriculture, Aerospace, Construction, Electronics, Emergency Services, Food, Forestry, Manufacturing, Oil & Gas, Renewable Energy, Services, Textile, Tourism, Transport.

    Took 5 seconds to find on Wikipedia...
    How would that change after independence is the question.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    Why will independence bring inward investment?
    It would be coupled with joining the EU.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    How would that change after independence is the question.
    Actually, the question was what would Wales build on.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Just for reference.

    GDP per capita:

    Ireland $83,399 (2019)
    Wales $27,459 (2015)
    Sudan $4,072 (2019)
    Chad $2,442 (2018)

  22. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Actually, the question was what would Wales build on.
    Yes, what. What in the oil and gas sector would be built on. Fracking?

    Your sarcastic response doesn’t really address the debate.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Ireland is the poster child for how a small independent nation that speaks English on the periphery of the EU can propser.

    "Ireland is currently fourth on the UN's Human Development Index (HDI) ranking, while the UK is at 14th. One component of those HDI rankings is real gross national income (GNI) per capita. ... On this measure, Ireland's income per head at $53,754 (€45,736) is 37 per cent higher than the UK's at $39,116 (€33,279)." David McWilliams (25 Sep 2018)

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Yes, what. What in the oil and gas sector would be built on. Fracking?

    Your sarcastic response doesn’t really address the debate.
    It wasn't sarcastic. I answered the question posed.

  25. #100

    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Just for reference.

    GDP per capita:

    Ireland $83,399 (2019)
    Wales $27,459 (2015)
    Sudan $4,072 (2019)
    Chad $2,442 (2018)
    And how much tax receipts is that generating? As Ireland has accused Apple of failing to pay €13bn, under 1% tax paid.

    GDP may be high on paper, but means nothing if it’s not doing anything with it

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