Petition WAG Let Parents Buy Essential Goods

[splott parker]

Witnessed much of this in recent months, Steve? I haven't.

I have, in fact my missus very often annoys me if I’m shopping with her when she says ‘I’m just going to have a little look at the clothes’, invariably there are women taking things off the rails and holding them up against their bodies because trying things on in changing rooms is off limits at the moment. Getting her in and out sharper because these aisles are shut has to be a plus and X the many other women who browse should mean that folk are in and out a lot quicker and clothes haven’t been double or triple handled.

[Heisenberg]

The aim is for people to stay home. If they have to go shopping and can get all the items they need in one place, that should reduce the amount of time they are away from home.

That would make sense if they could buy the same things elsewhere... But they can't. If they want the things that aren't on sale in the supermarket, then they aren't going to be leaving the house... Which is the whole fecking point of it!

How are people still not getting this?!

I'm going to use one of the Tory sound bites and say that this has become "party political".

[lisvaneblue]

That would make sense if they could buy the same things elsewhere... But they can't. If they want the things that aren't on sale in the supermarket, then they aren't going to be leaving the house... Which is the whole fecking point of it!

How are people still not getting this?!

I'm going to use one of the Tory sound bites and say that this has become "party political".

Oh come on. Do you know what is listed as non essential items? If unsure you'd probably go to the supermarket and have a look.

Stationery it seems is now OK, but does that include birthday cards, and if that's Ok how about sellotape and wrapping paper, or ballpoint pens, or crayons. And if crayons are Ok then can I buy a child's colouring book, or a reading book or a DVD

It's totally confusing, it treats us like kids, and all for a lockdown lasting 17 days.

[Heisenberg]

Oh come on. Do you know what is listed as non essential items? If unsure you'd probably goto the supermarket and have a look.

Stationery it seems is now OK, but does that include birthday cards, and if that's Ok how about sellotape and wrapping paper, or ballpoint pens, or crayons. And if crayons are Ok then can I buy a child's colouring book, or a reading book or a DVD

It's totally confusing, it treats us like kids, and all for a lockdown lasting 17 days.

Maybe some of us need to be treated like kids considering what I've been reading on here.

Seriously though, is anyone going to Tesco to buy a just a colouring book?!

Either way, I can tell you from looking up the rules, everything except a reading book and a DVD are classed as essential from your list of items.

If you would like any further assistance, just put a list of items in a message and send me a PM and I'll be happy to tell you what you can buy in Tesco.

17 days of a lockdown and people are losing their shit. We lasted months of a lockdown earlier this year and I saw less moaning about not being able to do things we were used to doing during that time.

I've even read a post on here today that Drakeford is just attention seeking and no other country in the UK is locking down... Despite N.I. being under lockdown too. It's a tool to beat Drakeford with for some reason.

"The local shops won't last these two weeks under lockdown" is another one I've heard.

Will they do better under a potential UK lockdown from mid-November onwards when the majority of people will be doing their Christmas shopping?

It's almost certain that if Boris Johnson had implemented exactly the same policies nationally then the majority of the posters who are being critical now would be, at the very least, accepting of them.

I'm off to watch Borat 2 now.

[lisvaneblue]

Maybe some of us need to be treated like kids considering what I've been reading on here.

Seriously though, is anyone going to Tesco to buy a just a colouring book?!

Either way, I can tell you from looking up the rules, everything except a reading book and a DVD are classed as essential from your list of items.

If you would like any further assistance, just put a list of items in a message and send me a PM and I'll be happy to tell you what you can buy in Tesco.

17 days of a lockdown and people are losing their shit. We lasted months of a lockdown earlier this year and I saw less moaning about not being able to do things we were used to doing during that time.

I've even read a post on here today that Drakeford is just attention seeking and no other country in the UK is locking down... Despite N.I. being under lockdown too. It's a tool to beat Drakeford with for some reason.

"The local shops won't last these two weeks under lockdown" is another one I've heard.

Will they do better under a potential UK lockdown from mid-November onwards when the majority of people will be doing their Christmas shopping?

It's almost certain that if Boris Johnson had implemented exactly the same policies nationally then the majority of the posters who are being critical now would be, at the very least, accepting of them.

I'm off to watch Borat 2 now.

Enjoy Borat 2, it'll be better than Covid 19.
You are right we managed a longer lockdown fine earlier this year, and we weren't subject to Drakeford's micr-management then, but we all got on with it.

[Heisenberg]

Enjoy Borat 2, it'll be better than Covid 19.
You are right we managed a longer lockdown fine earlier this year, and we weren't subject to Drakeford's micr-management then, but we all got on with it.

We were micromanaged to the extreme by politicians for months. To say anything else is being pigheaded and/or in denial.

We were literally allowed to leave the house once a day for exercise at one point. Now we're getting people losing their mind because, they can't buy a ****ing toaster or a kettle for 17 days.

A lot of rewriting history going on with this new lockdown and it stinks.

[Tuerto]

We were micromanaged to the extreme by politicians for months. To say anything else is being pigheaded and/or in denial.

We were literally allowed to leave the house once a day for exercise at one point. Now we're getting people losing their mind because, they can't buy a ****ing toaster or a kettle for 17 days.

A lot of rewriting history going on with this new lockdown and it stinks.

You can't aim anything at LB, he wanted to go prawn shopping in Brecon when 700 people a day were dying of Covid 19 in the UK, he's at least consistent. Plenty of others have changed their tune though. People on here almost weeping over NHS workers, grass your neighbour became a national past time, emotive stories about elderly parents having to live on Pot Noodles, Rainbows in windows etc. Panic had set in, there wasn't a great deal of balance, i get that, people were just worried and concerned.

Fast forward 6 months and some people have got a bit bored of it all. No longer are they concerned about safety first, even if it may be over cautious-who knows-The novelty has worn off. Plenty are just Tories looking for a gap to attack Welsh Labour, who are far from perfect, but what are they supposed to do?

This is how it is until a vaccine is found. It speaks volumes that this is the biggest -in terms of numbers-Petition the WAG has ever recieved, when there is so much more to protest about all around us. I can only come to the conclusion that there are some really selfish people about.

[The Lone Gunman]

It speaks volumes that this is the biggest -in terms of numbers-Petition the WAG has ever recieved, when there is so much more to protest about all around us. I can only come to the conclusion that there are some really selfish people about.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are a significant number of people who are getting increasingly pissed off with pointless restrictions and the clowns who are implementing them?

As I've already said, this particular policy won't affect me one iota and I haven't signed the petition against it. However, that doesn't mean to say it hasn't irritated me. It most certainly has, and I've also been irritated by the fact that some people seemingly believe they can look down upon or shame people who are fed up with this shit.

A significant percentage of the population actually seem to be genuinely revelling in this situation now. I find that truly bizarre.

[Tuerto]

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are a significant number of people who are getting increasingly pissed off with pointless restrictions and the clowns who are implementing them?

As I've already said, this particular policy won't affect me one iota and I haven't signed the petition against it. However, that doesn't mean to say it hasn't irritated me. It most certainly has, and I've also been irritated by the fact that some people seemingly believe they can look down upon or shame people who are fed up with this shit.

A significant percentage of the population actually seem to be genuinely revelling in this situation now. I find that truly bizarre.

I think it's due to the timescale of the lockdown, an attempt to limit the casual shoppers etc. It probably wont make a difference to anything, neither will other small changes implemented during this firebreaker or whatever it's called. I don't think that anyone is shaming or looking down on people, disagreeing certainly. Most people are fed up with it, but it isn't going to go away, not just yet. I've accepted it and carried on accordingly, lets face it, we're not slumming it, there's plenty to get on with, and there's football. I haven't met anyone revelling in it.

[The Lone Gunman]

I don't think that anyone is shaming or looking down on people, disagreeing certainly.

I know you don't use Facebook. If you did, your view might be somewhat different.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Isn't the aim to create a level playing field? Three elements, not giving supermarkets an economic advantage over local and other retailers, stopping a concentration of people into a confined space for a fortnight looking for goods that they would otherwise source elsewhere and instructing people that they should keep their journey where they come in contact with other human beings to an absolute minimum.

I concur

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

We were micromanaged to the extreme by politicians for months. To say anything else is being pigheaded and/or in denial.

We were literally allowed to leave the house once a day for exercise at one point. Now we're getting people losing their mind because, they can't buy a ****ing toaster or a kettle for 17 days.

A lot of rewriting history going on with this new lockdown and it stinks.

I have not seen a metal band in ages .

But this new 17 day lockdown is the final straw .

[life on mars]

To me, the ban on non-essential items in supermarkets appears petty and utterly pointless. The only thing it will achieve is to irritate people, but our friends in local and national government around these parts have seemed increasingly determined to do that in recent months.

Oh yes .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Oh yes .

I am not irritated by it

Its a pain in the arse but it is what it is

Imagine living at the end of world war two

Rationing , no Internet to buy things

We are facing a serious health situation

And people are irritated because they can't buy a new TV?

Use the Internet. If you don't have the Internet, put up with the old one or listen to the radio for a couple of weeks .

Then go and buy a new TV, or new bedsheets , or a new sofa .

[life on mars]

Life at times can't wait weeks things happen that need instant action :

One woman, whose daughter was admitted to hospital on Saturday, said she was unable to buy new clothes for her despite her pyjamas being "soaked in blood".

Chelsea Jones, from Llwynypia, Rhondda Cynon Taf, said she was forced to make a 40-mile trip home to collect replacements.

"I was driving around crying in a panic trying to find somewhere that I am able to pick up some essentials for my child," she said.

"I have never felt so angry, frustrated or upset, ever. You just never know when a 'non essential item' will become 'essential' to you."

Another parent, Jodi Merry, who is also from Rhondda Cynon Taf, said the rules were an "inconvenience" and she was planning to buy clothes for her eight-year-old son after she gets paid next week.

"I know it's only two weeks but he doesn't have any*

[xsnaggle]

But what TLG says is correct about transmission. Drakeford said himself that their evidence indicates there is no justification in blaming pubs and restaurants for the spread. He said it is being 'community' spread through households and families.
Having said that he then closes the pubs and restaurants and thorws thousands out of work again.
It makes little sense really.

[LeningradCowboy]

But what TLG says is correct about transmission. Drakeford said himself that their evidence indicates there is no justification in blaming pubs and restaurants for the spread. He said it is being 'community' spread through households and families.
Having said that he then closes the pubs and restaurants and thorws thousands out of work again.
It makes little sense really.

Even Drakeford realises that he can't control what happens within every household in Wales, but he has to do something and closing pubs and restaurants is something that he can do.

[the other bob wilson]

And there was me thinking it was the young and left wingers who were supposed to be the snowflakes .

[cyril evans awaydays]

And there was me thinking it was the young and left wingers who were supposed to be the snowflakes .

Given the content of this thread perhaps snowdrops rather than snowflakes would be more apt.

[Tuerto]

And there was me thinking it was the young and left wingers who were supposed to be the snowflakes .

People are edgy, understandable i suppose. I've not sat down and attempted to work out the logic of not being able to buy non essential goods, i really can't be arsed. One thing is for sure though; if that's all that people have a gripe about concerning this government then they can't be doing that bad.

[The Bloop]

Hopefully the WAG can get back to giving the message as to why we're in the Firebreak for 2 weeks and on whose advice they took.
People seem to have forgotten that this was SAGE's advice that Boris has ignored, but Drakeford has listened to and implemented.

[Dorcus]

It's looking like a big con. The Senedd petitions website says that this petition will be discussed by the Petitions committee for debate in the Senedd once all signatures are in by the deadline of 23 April 2021....only six months to go before it can be discussed.

That's brilliant news perhaps we can have a nice chat about it then and in the meantime get on with saving lives

[Hilts]

Indeed. What Drakeford and Co have done in this particular instance is brought in a measure that appears petty and will have no practical benefit whatsoever, but will instead cause unnecessary irritation and confusion, and will deflect attention from the most important message, which should be to stay out of other people's houses for a few weeks.

Do you actually buy the its mainly spread by people going into other households.?

[The Lone Gunman]

Do you actually buy the its mainly spread by people going into other households.?

That's what the experts are apparently saying, including Drakeford himself.

[Tuerto]

Do you actually buy the its mainly spread by people going into other households.?

I do, some people are taking the piss. I know a few people who have had a crowd over for kids parties etc.