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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Is that lilke Bacuna, only a bit rasher ?
    A case of lean back when he shoots

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Is that lilke Bacuna, only a bit rasher ?

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Neil Harris said after last night's match that Osei-Tutu will be out for four to six weeks and that Wilson's injury is not too serious, he may have to miss Saturday but should be alright after that.

    I agree that we should have got an out of contract right back in, it could still be done, but a lot of the more realistic targets have found clubs now.
    After thinking about your post a little more i think when they let crowds back we could have him back selling 50/50 tickets outside before games i'm sure many will fall for his bullshit and spin and buy some

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    The first half last night, looked like the players were disinterested. Last time I seen a performance like that, was when Andy Legg led a revolt of players to get Bobby Gould (I think) out. I think it was at Barnet. Strange times indeed, as these same players, were a goal away from a play off final, a few months ago, so what has happened to them.
    Tomlin bailed us out.

    The hope is Wilson and Tomlin make a big difference.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    **** Off

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    **** Off
    Been waiting for this

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Been waiting for this
    Can you imagine? Jesus wept.

  8. #8

    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    His decisions to rush Bennett and JOT back in have been a bit odd, considering he's rotated so much. I'd like to see Bacuna back in the middle but that won't be possible for most of 2020 now!
    It seems obvious to me.
    He knows his best side and is feeling the pressure.

    It is a results business and perhaps he's thinking along the lines of I might as well play someone earlier than ideal which has an element of risk attached to it as I might not be here in 5 games time when the risk is much lower.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    It seems obvious to me.
    He knows his best side and is feeling the pressure.

    It is a results business and perhaps he's thinking along the lines of I might as well play someone earlier than ideal which has an element of risk attached to it as I might not be here in 5 games time when the risk is much lower.
    He's rotated everyone bar his full backs and he's rushed both of them back too early. It is very odd.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Not me. I don’t think I could stand the cloying insincerity of being told again that we are a great club with amazing fans. Then again, doesn’t he say that at every club he manages ?

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Harris is purely a transition manager to get us away - no matter how slightly away from Warnock's style of play. He might drift with the play offs but I dont think he will ever take us up. If he can steady the ship (and budget!) for this season or so he will be gone and hopefully somone more exciting taking over

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    We aren't worse now than we were then.

    We aren't Barcelona now, but at least we're trying to move on to a more passing based game (which we are, but it will take time). We were getting poor results under Warnock and playing the same hoofball crap that dominated much of his reign
    In terms of results what’s actually wrong with Hoofball?

    I’m tired of all this crap about hoofball as the most boring games I’ve ever seen is ‘perfect football’ from Barca and Pep’s city.

    Some of the most entertaining games I’ve ever enjoyed have been lumping into the box.

    There’s a few issues with Warnock football

    It’s easy to plan to defend if you have the right players
    When it doesn’t work it’s dreadful
    It’s not fashionable

    If people can accept were a hoofball team and sign players on that basis it’s not an issue

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    In terms of results what’s actually wrong with Hoofball?

    I’m tired of all this crap about hoofball as the most boring games I’ve ever seen is ‘perfect football’ from Barca and Pep’s city.

    Some of the most entertaining games I’ve ever enjoyed have been lumping into the box.

    There’s a few issues with Warnock football

    It’s easy to plan to defend if you have the right players
    When it doesn’t work it’s dreadful
    It’s not fashionable

    If people can accept were a hoofball team and sign players on that basis it’s not an issue
    We'll never stay up if we play hoofball and if it goes wrong, it's bloody awful.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We'll never stay up if we play hoofball and if it goes wrong, it's bloody awful.
    And what we play now is any better? 🤷*♂️

    I’m no advocate of hoofball but I put up with it whilst we were winning.

    But THIS....🤦*♂️

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    And what we play now is any better? ��*♂️

    I’m no advocate of hoofball but I put up with it whilst we were winning.

    But THIS....��*♂️
    Not really but why would you want to go back to something that had run it's course and wasn't working? Hardly any of our players can play and half of the ones that can have had their confidence shot to bits. Warnock built most of the squad we have and let's be honest, it isn't a stellar one by any means. Harris' signings have been pretty good. Moore, Ojo, JOT and Wilson all improve the side.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    In terms of results what’s actually wrong with Hoofball?

    I’m tired of all this crap about hoofball as the most boring games I’ve ever seen is ‘perfect football’ from Barca and Pep’s city.

    Some of the most entertaining games I’ve ever enjoyed have been lumping into the box.

    There’s a few issues with Warnock football

    It’s easy to plan to defend if you have the right players
    When it doesn’t work it’s dreadful
    It’s not fashionable

    If people can accept were a hoofball team and sign players on that basis it’s not an issue
    As a style of play its pretty dull to watch, that's the issue

    What's annoying about Warnock is when he let the shackles off we played good stuff. The start of the promotion season we played great football and blew teams away, then we reverted to lumping it long to get over the line. We were similar in the Premier League, there were a few games where we had a go at teams and looked good, only for us to revert to long ball tactics in the next game

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Just why did Neil Warnock decide to sign Aden Flint, a very ordinary 30 year Championship defender, for over £4m and where was the transfer committee?

    It’s the lack of serious football people at the top of the club who allowed this sort of thing to happen that is continuing to hold us back.

    VT is a businessman living in Malaysia, Ken is a former hotelier who divides his week between the club and running a car dealership in London and Dalman is a merchant banker living in Monaco.

    There doesn’t appear to be any strategy In place. Until the structure of the club is placed on a more professional basis and VT hires some top football people to advise him and the board then I don’t really see us going anywhere anytime soon, hope I’m wrong.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    Just why did Neil Warnock decide to sign Aden Flint, a very ordinary 30 year Championship defender, for over £4m and where was the transfer committee?

    It’s the lack of serious football people at the top of the club who allowed this sort of thing to happen that is continuing to hold us back.

    VT is a businessman living in Malaysia, Ken is a former hotelier who divides his week between the club and running a car dealership in London and Dalman is a merchant banker living in Monaco.

    There doesn’t appear to be any strategy In place. Until the structure of the club is placed on a more professional basis and VT hires some top football people to advise him and the board then I don’t really see us going anywhere anytime soon, hope I’m wrong.
    I don't think you are wrong. Colin is a football man through and through. He has been around the block significantly more times than VT, MD or KC. I have no doubt that he was able to run rings around the lot of them and get his way. Colin has now gone but the same dilettantes ( in footballing terms) are still running the club. Perhaps VT's only strategy is to avoid losing any more more money on the project and establish an exit strategy ? The only big picture strategy I can bring to mind is VT's promise to convert all the debt owed to him to equity in 5 years. He made that promise in February 2016 so, in 4 months or so, that promise should be coming to fruition. Let's see if it happens.

  19. #19

    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Straight swap for Harris - yes.

  20. #20

    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    I wasn't a fan of Warnock's football and thought it had run it's course here.

    He has taken 17th placed finishing Middlesbrough and got 16 points from 9 games so far this season.
    Harris has taken 5th placed Cardiff and is currently in 17th place with 10 points from 9 games.

    Put bluntly. Yes I would.

  21. #21

    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Warnock spent badly with the premier league budget, spent badly with the first round of parachute payments and here we are. Going back to Warnock only makes sense if we're in a relegation battle and he's needed.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Warnock spent badly with the premier league budget, spent badly with the first round of parachute payments and here we are. Going back to Warnock only makes sense if we're in a relegation battle and he's needed.
    Have you seen the table?

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Have you seen the table?
    Earlier in this thread I said no pretty strongly but I didn't this time

  24. #24

    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Earlier in this thread I said no pretty strongly but I didn't this time
    It is quite a feat to take a team who finished 5th and have them stuttering like we are.

    I am of the thinking we are too good when looking at some of the teams down there but I wouldn't be the last to think that and for it to come and bite me on the @rse.

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    Re: Who would have Warnock back?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    It is quite a feat to take a team who finished 5th and have them stuttering like we are.

    I am of the thinking we are too good when looking at some of the teams down there but I wouldn't be the last to think that and for it to come and bite me on the @rse.
    But we only finished 5h because of Harris and, to be fair, Tomlin. He's taken a side that was looking like it was about to be in a relegation battle up to 5th and back in a year.

    Asking for Warnock to come back is near enough the same as asking for Trollope to come back given where we were left when they exited the club.

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