Labour party suspend Jeremy Corbyn

[City123]

I think it's because of an incessant hysterical right wing media who have been allowed to get away with it because it suits the bosses and big business. We also have huge swathes of people who seem influenced by reactionary jingoistic 2 liners on social media, add to that, personality politics. Plenty of cretins seem at home in accepting Boris as a 'bit of a boy' bumbling nut funny, i really think that some people chose their politics based on who they'd prefer to go on the piss with. Corbyn is portrayed as non patriotic, a friend of terrorists, a champion of scroungers and snowflakes,scruffy, boring etc. His policies couldn't really be discussed or analysed by those who bought into all of that, because it may have meant that they had to sit down and read a balanced article, then make an informed decision.

Corbyn even had his own parliamentary party against him, many of them to the right or careerists with absolutely zero appetite in fighting for working class people and improving their lives. He's not even close to being far left, he's a soft socialist. It speaks volumes that he's seen that way.

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

[the other bob wilson]

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Sorry, I disagree, I don't class myself as on the right of the Labour party politically, but the need to "get the Tories out" takes priority every time over any desire to nobble the left or right wing of Labour. for me. Someone texted Radio Five's breakfast programme this morning to say that they joined the Labour party to try to ensure that people like Starmer never became its leader again - for me, that sort of attitude sums up what has been wrong about Labour for virtually all of my lifetime (certainly for as long as I have been able to vote).

[WJ99mobile]

So you're saying he deserved to lose and the voting public were right

Depends how you view it.

It seems all major parties are being split due to the race to the middle ground.

[Tuerto]

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Well said. This is what it has come down to. Protecting the rich and more affluent, in some cases apologising for them. We even have fair minded people with a social conscience accepting that Labour needs to be right wing in order to gain the trust of the electorate.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Well said. This is what it has come down to. Protecting the rich and more affluent, in some cases apologising for them. We even have fair minded people with a social conscience accepting that Labour needs to be right wing in order to gain the trust of the electorate.

Labour need to be centerist to gain power . We have a far better chance of getting left of centre politics implemented with someone like starmer or nandy in charge than corbyn . A socialist party will never be elected in this country , I would like to see it , but its never going to happen .

I would like to see a stronger Liberal party so between us we can kick the feck into the tories and not stand in certain seats

Those people in Bridgend who voted tory will soon regret it

[robjohn44]

I know it is Politics but I think important enough to go on the main board initially.

The Labour party have suspended Jeremy Corbyn.


It appears to be as a response to his statement this morning in response to the Labour Anti Semitism report which was critical of him.

He refused to apologise and said the report dramatically overstated the situation.

Whrn he refused to withdraw the statement he had the whip withdrawn and was suspended from the party

Corbyn and his ilk are despicable they have ruined the peoples party which now loves everyone apart from the white working class and obviously jews.
kick out the whole of the pyschos in momemtum

[robjohn44]

Labour need to be centerist to gain power . We have a far better chance of getting left of centre politics implemented with someone like starmer or nandy in charge than corbyn . A socialist party will never be elected in this country , I would like to see it , but its never going to happen .

I would like to see a stronger Liberal party so between us we can kick the feck into the tories and not stand in certain seats

Those people in Bridgend who voted tory will soon regret it

the problem with all the parties is this.

the tories have no conservatives anymore
the liberals are totally illiberal
and labour doesn't give a shit about the white working class anymore

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

the problem with all the parties is this.

the tories have no conservatives anymore
the liberals are totally illiberal
and labour doesn't give a shit about the white working class anymore

I think the working class , of all backgrounds , have and always have been dumped on by all parties in this country

You are an mp and you fiddle your expenses ?

Slap on the wrists

You are a working class bloke and do a cash job ?

[Tuerto]

I think the working class , of all backgrounds , have and always have been dumped on by all parties in this country

You are an mp and you fiddle your expenses ?

Slap on the wrists

You are a working class bloke and do a cash job ?

He's right about White working class. Things get bad for them and it filters, women and kids get worse treatment and standards, as do minorities, crimes rises, addiction, mental health and unbelievably, the rise in racism and far right politics. Align in to Trumps success and Brexit.

[lisvaneblue]

Why do you think left wing policies are broadly more popular than right wing policies, yet the current political pendulum is swinging right at the moment?

His agenda of nationalisation on a grand scale was very far to the left and I don't think voters were ready for such an extreme swing. Added to that he showed several times that he dithered on key decisions.

Here was a modest man with strong left views who never expected to be leader of the Labour Party. He was carried along by Momentum and Unite and it became evident that he was a puppet leader with other people pulling the strings.

[Dave Blue]

I saw a post that said Labour ‘lost half it’s support’ last time. Labour increased its vote from 2017 by 1 million. The Tories won because the UKIP vote totally collapsed and joined dear Boris Farage.

[life on mars]

Brexit killed him off in all honesty.

Brexit split the Labour Party in 2 with no winning solution

Think it was more complicated than that , I dont think he had leadership qualities , he was he was stuck in the past ,it appeared he was controlled by others behind the scene, and he must have been aware how antisemitism was playing out , he was leading a party which was divided by its own supporters.

Corbyn lost his way and let in the fool Boris with a huge majority, he and his inner group selfishly put Labour back years for thier ideology and fear of centralist type policies, its as if the party had been highjacked and damaged for all the wrong reasons .

Labour now needs to find new voters and supporters , if that means more suspensions so be it, the alternative is a Tory party with buffon Boris in power for a very long time.

Starmer is not perfect I would have preferred a braver appointment like electing its first female leader in the guise of Lisa Nandy , sadly that seems to be a step too far for Labour , I think Bailey runnning put an end to Lisa Nandy opportunity?

[Tuerto]

Think it was more complicated than that , I dont think he had leadership qualities , he was he was stuck in the past ,it appeared he was controlled by others behind the scene, and he must have been aware how antisemitism was playing out , he was leading a party which was divided by its own supporters.

Corbyn lost his way and let in the fool Boris with a huge majority, he and his inner group selfishly put Labour back years for thier ideology and fear of centralist type policies, its as if the party had been highjacked and damaged for all the wrong reasons .

Labour now needs to find new voters and supporters , if that means more suspensions so be it, the alternative is a Tory party with buffon Boris in power for a very long time.

Starmer is not perfect I would have preferred a braver appointment like electing its first female leader in the guise of Lisa Nandy , sadly that seems to be a step too far for Labour , I think Bailey runnning put an end to Lisa Nandy opportunity?

Not Nandy, Please. Starmer is the boy for the establishment, Nandy if a confused, substanceless Centrist. I believe even her own father accused her of being right Wing.

[WJ99mobile]

Think it was more complicated than that , I dont think he had leadership qualities , he was he was stuck in the past ,it appeared he was controlled by others behind the scene, and he must have been aware how antisemitism was playing out , he was leading a party which was divided by its own supporters.

Corbyn lost his way and let in the fool Boris with a huge majority, he and his inner group selfishly put Labour back years for thier ideology and fear of centralist type policies, its as if the party had been highjacked and damaged for all the wrong reasons .

Labour now needs to find new voters and supporters , if that means more suspensions so be it, the alternative is a Tory party with buffon Boris in power for a very long time.

Starmer is not perfect I would have preferred a braver appointment like electing its first female leader in the guise of Lisa Nandy , sadly that seems to be a step too far for Labour , I think Bailey runnning put an end to Lisa Nandy opportunity?

With respect I strongly disagree with you

Stuck in the past but the majority of his strongest supporters was the youth?

Like I said previous, I didn’t vote for Corbyn but I was bloody close in doing so. The majority of the reason I didn’t was because of the rest of his party (and Brexit)

[life on mars]

Not Nandy, Please. Starmer is the boy for the establishment, Nandy if a confused, substanceless Centrist. I believe even her own father accused her of being right Wing.

Gosh didn't know that interesting ,just thought as a northerner and not another Londoner based leader she would have appealed to the electorate , and was more left of the party than you describe, I do think ver time Starmer will slowly drift into the centre though ?

[NYCBlue]

It was always going to happen. Corbyn isn't Anti Semitic, he's done more to defend the jewish community and other minorities than most politicians. That's not to say that there isn't an element of Anti Semitic behaviour, although most (in my opinion) raised in the form of Zionism and peoples opposition to it. This has been played out by the Tories and the media and made to look much worse than it is. They've got their man, Starmer will be happy.

Our current leader accused Muslim woman who wear the hijab as resembling 'Letterboxes' can you imagine if Corbyn or anyone from the left had said that? This country in the political sense is an absolute shambles.