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Thread: Taxi for Harris.

  1. #26

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    Malky earned the Club £120m from promotion to the PL after spending just £12m in two Championship seasons after inheriting 9 players from Jones (3 being goalkeepers). Promotion was gained by winning the Championship by 8 pts and with a goal difference of +27.

    In the Summer of 2013, for the PL campaign, Malky spent just £34.18m on transfer fees:

    Medel £11.7m
    Caulker £8.24m
    Cornelius £7.23m
    Theophile-Catherine £2.25m
    Odemwingie £2.61m
    Brayford £1.57m
    Moore £0.58m

    The Cornelius' transfer apart, the majority of the other fees were recouped when players were sold. Malky's dealings were hardly wasteful nor did he spend, 'loadsamoney.'

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    The season we went up he spent over £10 million.
    17 players came in permanently with a further three loans.
    Some of the transfers were frees and included Craig Bellamy and Helguson who played a big part.
    This, as you've touched on, to add to the quality players left from the Jones era.

    He was certainly backed more than any manager since the Hammam spending splurge that's for sure.

  2. #27

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Plus they haven’t got 20,000 football managers getting on their backs
    I don't think our team are aware being that until today we had the 2nd best away record in the country since football came back

  3. #28

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    Malky earned the Club £120m from promotion to the PL after spending just £12m in two Championship seasons after inheriting 9 players from Jones (3 being goalkeepers). Promotion was gained by winning the Championship by 8 pts and with a goal difference of +27.

    In the Summer of 2013, for the PL campaign, Malky spent just £34.18m on transfer fees:

    Medel £11.7m
    Caulker £8.24m
    Cornelius £7.23m
    Theophile-Catherine £2.25m
    Odemwingie £2.61m
    Brayford £1.57m
    Moore £0.58m

    The Cornelius' transfer apart, the majority of the other fees were recouped when players were sold. Malky's dealings were hardly wasteful nor did he spend, 'loadsamoney.'

    StT.
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    Would still be manager today 🤔 if what went on behind the scenes didn't go on in my opinion.
    Loved that period in our history 👏 getting promotion to the big stage for the first time and were competing for 17th at worst 👍

  4. #29

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Cardiff had a very strong second half of the season last time around. So what’s gone wrong this season?

  5. #30

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    The season we went up he spent over £10 million.
    17 players came in permanently with a further three loans.
    Some of the transfers were frees and included Craig Bellamy and Helguson who played a big part.
    This, as you've touched on, to add to the quality players left from the Jones era.

    He was certainly backed more than any manager since the Hammam spending splurge that's for sure.
    The facts do not support your assertion. He also put £120m in the plus column for promotion which you ignore. But even not adding that into the equation his transfer record stands up to scrutiny compared to the woeful Transfer Committee's dealings headed by Tan in the 7 years following Malky.

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  6. #31

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Would still be manager today �� if what went on behind the scenes didn't go on in my opinion.
    Loved that period in our history �� getting promotion to the big stage for the first time and were competing for 17th at worst ��
    I share your view that had Malky been able to sign the two players he wanted in January 2014 we would have had a far better chance of staying in the PL than the wreck-less transfer activity and management of OGS afforded. Alas we shall never know would we have stayed up, but we weren't just making up numbers as Warnock continually implied after his promotion.

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  7. #32

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    Malky earned the Club £120m from promotion to the PL after spending just £12m in two Championship seasons after inheriting 9 players from Jones (3 being goalkeepers). Promotion was gained by winning the Championship by 8 pts and with a goal difference of +27.

    In the Summer of 2013, for the PL campaign, Malky spent just £34.18m on transfer fees:

    Medel £11.7m
    Caulker £8.24m
    Cornelius £7.23m
    Theophile-Catherine £2.25m
    Odemwingie £2.61m
    Brayford £1.57m
    Moore £0.58m

    The Cornelius' transfer apart, the majority of the other fees were recouped when players were sold. Malky's dealings were hardly wasteful nor did he spend, 'loadsamoney.'

    StT.
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    Malky one season wonder he's been garbage ever since and that has nothing to do with what happened at Cardiff

  8. #33

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    I share your view that had Malky been able to sign the two players he wanted in January 2014 we would have had a far better chance of staying in the PL than the wreck-less transfer activity and management of OGS afforded. Alas we shall never know would we have stayed up, but we weren't just making up numbers as Warnock continually implied after his promotion.

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    Who were the two players that he wanted to sign out of interest?

  9. #34

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Who were the two players that he wanted to sign out of interest?

    It was reported at the time that Malky wanted to sign two attacking players.

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  10. #35

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Cardiff had a very strong second half of the season last time around. So what’s gone wrong this season?
    Tomlin got injured. Harris will get results when Wilson and Tomlin are back because they’re too good not to.

  11. #36

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    I share your view that had Malky been able to sign the two players he wanted in January 2014 we would have had a far better chance of staying in the PL than the wreck-less transfer activity and management of OGS afforded. Alas we shall never know would we have stayed up, but we weren't just making up numbers as Warnock continually implied after his promotion.

    StT.
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    ‘Wreck-less’, Solksjaer’s transfer activity certainly wasn't that!!!

  12. #37

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    I share your view that had Malky been able to sign the two players he wanted in January 2014 we would have had a far better chance of staying in the PL than the wreck-less transfer activity and management of OGS afforded. Alas we shall never know would we have stayed up, but we weren't just making up numbers as Warnock continually implied after his promotion.

    StT.
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    Comparing those fees to today's transfer fees it seems pennies.

    I'm reality the 12m he spent on promotion was massive at the time, we out spent everyone if memory serves me right and by some distance.

    The money spent after promotion I remember it being a record amount a promoted club had ever spent.

    Comparing fees then to now makes a fake picture. Malky was very well back.

  13. #38

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Tomlin got injured. Harris will get results when Wilson and Tomlin are back because they’re too good not to.
    Oh dear. 🤦*♂️

  14. #39

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post
    Malky earned the Club £120m from promotion to the PL after spending just £12m in two Championship seasons after inheriting 9 players from Jones (3 being goalkeepers). Promotion was gained by winning the Championship by 8 pts and with a goal difference of +27.

    In the Summer of 2013, for the PL campaign, Malky spent just £34.18m on transfer fees:

    Medel £11.7m
    Caulker £8.24m
    Cornelius £7.23m
    Theophile-Catherine £2.25m
    Odemwingie £2.61m
    Brayford £1.57m
    Moore £0.58m

    The Cornelius' transfer apart, the majority of the other fees were recouped when players were sold. Malky's dealings were hardly wasteful nor did he spend, 'loadsamoney.'

    StT.
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    You are deliberately ignoring the additional £10-15m paid out in signing on fees for the above. Plus your statement that the majority of the players fees were recouped on sale is patently incorrect. Peter Odemwingie left on a free transfer (£2m+ loss) , Theophile-Catherine was sold for a loss, Gary Medel was sold for a loss as was Cornelius. Moore, Brayford were sold for small profits. The main problem however was that he spent more than the budget he was given in the first place on players that generally weren't anywhere near good enough.

  15. #40

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    This can't go on.
    Moan, moan, moan. Nothing better to do. No recognition of the very difficult circumstances in which the club are operating at the moment, no recognition of what Harris has achieved so far with very little expense, no support for the players etc etc. Same old crap being peddled week after week by the same people.

  16. #41

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Moan, moan, moan. Nothing better to do. No recognition of the very difficult circumstances in which the club are operating at the moment, no recognition of what Harris has achieved so far with very little expense, no support for the players etc etc. Same old crap being peddled week after week by the same people.
    The same difficult circumstances that every other championship club are experiencing and there's not many clubs that have paid £2m for a striker this summer so by and large Harris as been backed.

  17. #42

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    The same difficult circumstances that every other championship club are experiencing and there's not many clubs that have paid £2m for a striker this summer so by and large Harris as been backed.
    To be fair that was balanced by outgoings. Richards, Connolly, Bogle, Ward, NML all released and Paterson & Etheridge both sold

  18. #43

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    The simple truth is that Harris has to start winning games, or he'll be on his way.
    The budget available to earlier managers is irrelevant - this is his team now, and he has brought in players that we never thought we'd see at Cardiff (Wilson, Ojo, Moore).
    But it's a real penance to have to watch this side - the football on show is awful. It wouldn't be so bad if we were winning games, as we did in the Warnock era. But we're not.
    Poor football and poor results usually means you have a poor manager.
    Maybe it is time to go.

  19. #44

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve the Tea View Post

    It was reported at the time that Malky wanted to sign two attacking players.

    StT.
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    Question was Who were they?
    Don’t be a politician you were given their names by AA

  20. #45

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    While I don't think Harris has been very strongly backed by the board financially in his two windows (possibly justifiably with the Nantes saga and COVID), I've never really had confidence he's the man for the job. The squad isn't the best, but he's getting very little out of it at the moment.

    Our away form is (despite yesterday) still excellent, and that's a lot to do with the significant amount of work he's put in around shape and what we do off the ball. At home, this has become a huge problem though - we're far too rigid and cause next to no problems when teams are happy to sit back, and our struggle to create chances is exacerbated by the complete lack of quality and threat posed by our wingers.

    Since Harris has come in we average 1.42 points per game at home, which works out at about 33 points a season. Nowhere near good enough to mount a serious promotion push (and even more problematic if we somehow managed to make it to the PL).

    Ultimately what I find most concerning is how outplayed we look whenever we play a good side. The Fulham away game in the regular season and home game in the play offs showed up the gulf between the sides. It doesn't fill me with any confidence that we could get through the play offs, and even if we did somehow manage to get promoted, we wouldn't stand a chance of holding our own.

    For me, he has to get at least 4 points from these next two home games.

  21. #46

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Question was Who were they?
    Don’t be a politician you were given their names by AA
    I was not given their names by anyone. It was simply a comment made by Malky in December 2013.

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  22. #47

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    I've tried to give Harris the benefit of the doubt this season, but picking the same midfield yesterday after the performance at Derby was an awful decision.

  23. #48

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Tomlin got injured. Harris will get results when Wilson and Tomlin are back because they’re too good not to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Oh dear. ��*♂️
    Bobby, any comments?

  24. #49

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Bobby, any comments?
    Of course.

    Where was Tomlin again? Wasn’t he the man that we had ‘no option’ to give a contract to in your words?

    Laughable.

    PS. Harris will be gone soon enough - a fool will never know this of course.

  25. #50

    Re: Taxi for Harris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Of course.

    Where was Tomlin again? Wasn’t he the man that we had ‘no option’ to give a contract to in your words?

    Laughable.

    PS. Harris will be gone soon enough - a fool will never know this of course.
    How's it going Bobby!

    My guess is if we lose our next game you will be back having a moan , if we win you keep quiet

    Hopefully we keep winning

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