Home and away wins per manager since Scoular

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Just league games, every manager who has managed more than a handful of games, so Solskjaer's short stint not included.

Home win percentage:

1 Cork 64.7%
2 Warnock 54.4%
3 Mackay 52.7%
4 D Jones 51.4%
5 May 50.6%
6 Ashurst 50.6%
7 Scoular 49.5%
8 Lawrence 48.7%
9 Morgan 47.6%
10 Slade 46.3%
11 Andrews 46.2%
12 Burrows 42.6%
13 Osman 32.1%
14 Harris 31.6%
15 Durban 25.6%


Away win percentage:

1 Harris 50.0%
2 Lawrence 34.7%
3 Mackay 34.5%
4 Cork 32.4%
5 Osman 32.1%
6 D Jones 30.4%
7 Burrows 29.8%
8 Warnock 29.4%
9 Slade 27.5%
10 May 27.3%
11 Ashurst 25.0%
12 Morgan 23.8%
13 Durban 22.0%
14 Andrews 18.5%
15 Scoular 17.4%

[bobh]

Harris benefits from absence of fans, which negates home advantage.

Scoular's away stats include those awful 71 -75 seasons

[UNDERHILL1927]

Just league games, every manager who has managed more than a handful of games, so Solskjaer's short stint not included.

Home win percentage:

1 Cork 64.7%
2 Warnock 54.4%
3 Mackay 52.7%
4 D Jones 51.4%
5 May 50.6%
6 Ashurst 50.6%
7 Scoular 49.5%
8 Lawrence 48.7%
9 Morgan 47.6%
10 Slade 46.3%
11 Andrews 46.2%
12 Burrows 42.6%
13 Osman 32.1%
14 Harris 31.6%
15 Durban 25.6%


Away win percentage:

1 Harris 50.0%
2 Lawrence 34.7%
3 Mackay 34.5%
4 Cork 32.4%
5 Osman 32.1%
6 D Jones 30.4%
7 Burrows 29.8%
8 Warnock 29.4%
9 Slade 27.5%
10 May 27.3%
11 Ashurst 25.0%
12 Morgan 23.8%
13 Durban 22.0%
14 Andrews 18.5%
15 Scoular 17.4%

Really interesting, Harris's home form % hasn't been helped by Covid and the lack of fans. It's fascinating how chalk and cheese the stats are.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Harris benefits from absence of fans, which negates home advantage.

Scoular's away stats include those awful 71 -75 seasons

I was born in 1978 so have little recollection of anything Cardiff related before the 90s. Scoular has always been portrayed as a Cardiff legend, so I was genuinely surprised to see that he won 34 out of 195 league away games. He also managed 22 away FA and League cup ties and only won 3. He also won only 3 of 16 European trips, 2 of those (at least) to sides where away wins were to be expected at the time.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Really interesting, Harris's home form % hasn't been helped by Covid and the lack of fans. It's fascinating how chalk and cheese the stats are.

Harris won 3 out of 10 at home in the league before Covid. He's won 3 out of 9 since fans weren't allowed back in. The only difference is that we've lost more at home since lockdown.

[UNDERHILL1927]

Harris won 3 out of 10 at home in the league before Covid. He's won 3 out of 9 since fans weren't allowed back in. The only difference is that we've lost more at home since lockdown.

Ah ok, fair enough. I struggle to remember what happened yesterday let alone months ago 🤣

To sum it up I'd say our squad isn't good enough and neither is Harris but sadly I think we all knew that from the off.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Surely wins only isn't a useful statistic. Using that yardstick, one win is worth more than many draws.

[J R Hartley]

Harris benefits from absence of fans, which negates home advantage.

Scoular's away stats include those awful 71 -75 seasons

His away record wasn’t too shabby with fans in the stadium either

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Ah ok, fair enough. I struggle to remember what happened yesterday let alone months ago ��

To sum it up I'd say our squad isn't good enough and neither is Harris but sadly I think we all knew that from the off.

In fairness, most teams' home form has dipped since crowds couldn't return. Overall, the stats are pretty conclusive!

My feeling is that the way we play has more to do with our dismal home form than crowds being allowed in. Some disagree, I know.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

His away record wasn’t too shabby with fans in the stadium either

Absolutely.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Surely wins only isn't a useful statistic. Using that yardstick, one win is worth more than many draws.

There's little difference if you did a points per game average, converting all wins to 3 points. What may make a difference is the change to 3 points for a win. Then wins became more valuable. I did some research on the few seasons before and after and the number of wins increased when more points were available.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Where are the stats for Kenny Hibbit?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Where are the stats for Kenny Hibbit?

36.9% home win rate. 22.2% away win rate.

[life on mars]

36.9% home win rate. 22.2% away win rate.

Greatest moustache to ever manage us

[Taunton Blue Genie]

There's little difference if you did a points per game average, converting all wins to 3 points. What may make a difference is the change to 3 points for a win. Then wins became more valuable. I did some research on the few seasons before and after and the number of wins increased when more points were available.

I still don't see the relevance of wins per se.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I still don't see the relevance of wins per se.

What would you rather see?

[Do me a Faerber]

What would you rather see?

% of points won surely.

[Do me a Faerber]

There's little difference if you did a points per game average, converting all wins to 3 points. What may make a difference is the change to 3 points for a win. Then wins became more valuable. I did some research on the few seasons before and after and the number of wins increased when more points were available.

You can't convert all wins to 3 points. Why would you do that? When we had 2 points for a win, teams tactically played for a point away from home. If you converted the Scoular era to 3 points for a win, you would be doing a disservice to the rules at the time.

[Cyclops]

I still don't see the relevance of wins per se.

Is Eric, Percy then?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

You can't convert all wins to 3 points. Why would you do that? When we had 2 points for a win, teams tactically played for a point away from home. If you converted the Scoular era to 3 points for a win, you would be doing a disservice to the rules at the time.

Which is what I said.

[blueblade]

Pretty conclusive that Durban was the worst manager we've ever had !

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

Pretty conclusive that Durban was the worst manager we've ever had !

And Mackay the best

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Pretty conclusive that Durban was the worst manager we've ever had !

I think some would nominate Solskjaer for that award. His home win percentage was 30.7% and his away win percentage was 8.3%! He mainly managed us in the top division, though.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

What would you rather see?

It's not a matter of what I prefer to see, old fruit. I just think that is just partial data.

Consider the 1997-1998 season:

City finished the season in League Two in bottom but three position with 50 points, a -4 goal difference and a 19.56 win percentage
Immediately below them were Hull, eleven points adrift of City on 41 points, a goal difference of -27 and a 23.09 win percentage.

[cardiff55]

I think we went nearly two years without an away win under Scoular? Struggled in one season, no wins in the next season and just. one the following season. 15 games 1971/72, 21 games in 1972/73 and the first 8 games of 1973/74. Just the 44 winless away games!!