Hey Donald Trump

[lisvaneblue]

I agree. I'd even go a step further and suggest that Trump, a bit like Brexit over here, appealed to those who felt like they were unheard, to those who wanted to give the establishments in both countries a bit of a kicking. Brexit certainly transcended party politics in the UK in a similar way to Trump reaching out to, and alienating, both sides in America.

The big shame is that, those who felt that voting Trump (and Brexit) was taking back control from the establishment, were actually doing the very opposite. Assuming the next elections in UK and America will be in 2024, it'll be interesting to see how much support the right wing parties in each country actually get. The Conservatives got a relatively strong election result last year on the back of one issue, but when that's done and dusted, the party will need to move back into the centre or it'll lose lots of its new working class vote. From what I see, this government's popularity is plummetting and not just on the back of Covid. Brexit spoke to lots of working class people, the same who largely support things like Marcus Rashford's support for school meals during holidays for those who qualify for free school meals. Once Brexit dies down, we'll get back to normal policies again and this government won't stand a chance on a right wing ticket if they attack the working classes.

The same will be true in America with former Democrats who voted for Trump, but who may not have as natural a home with the Republicans. From my limited knowledge of American politics, it has always seemed that any President who has done ok in his first term of office gets in, certainly in more recent times. In my lifetime, Trump follows Jimmy Carter and George Bush (first one) as Presidents that have only served one term and not been re-elected, unlike Reagan, Clinton, Bush Jnr and Obama. I was one of many who were astounded that George W Bush got a second term and so, for Trump to fail against someone who is hardly a strong candidate seems to suggest the direction America wants to go.

I'd just like to know who exactly is in charge in the UK. Is it Chris Whitty or Marcus Rashford?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I'd just like to know who exactly is in charge in the UK. Is it Chris Whitty or Marcus Rashford?

Thankfully it's not Boris Johnson, a man who sets himself up to be the butt of the jokes. Frankie Boyle has a few:

A cross between a brain injury and an unmade bed
A malevolent baked Alaska
The interface of the public school system and foetal alcohol syndrome
What happens when Pixar is infiltrated by the last surviving Nazi war criminal
Oswald Moseley’s soul trapped in a Furby

[Elwood Blues]

Thankfully it's not Boris Johnson, a man who sets himself up to be the butt of the jokes. Frankie Boyle has a few:

A cross between a brain injury and an unmade bed
A malevolent baked Alaska
The interface of the public school system and foetal alcohol syndrome
What happens when Pixar is infiltrated by the last surviving Nazi war criminal
Oswald Moseley’s soul trapped in a Furby

Those are meant to be funny???

Don't get me wrong, Political leaders are there to be shot at and there is nothing wrong with good jokes about them. I agree that Boris does make himself a target at times ( well quite a lot actually)

But I feel that comedians like Frankie Boyle think of the most outrageous things they can and believe that because they are saying it, it is automatically funny.

Sometimes it really isn't.

[Rjk]

Those are meant to be funny???

Don't get me wrong, Political leaders are there to be shot at and there is nothing wrong with good jokes about them. I agree that Boris does make himself a target at times ( well quite a lot actually)

But I feel that comedians like Frankie Boyle think of the most outrageous things they can and believe that because they are saying it, it is automatically funny.

Sometimes it really isn't.

Frankie Boyle is excellent these days. and yes I thought those were funny.

[Elwood Blues]

Frankie Boyle is excellent these days. and yes I thought those were funny.

What comparing the Prime Minister to a Nazi War Criminal?

Oh how hilarious

[Rjk]

What comparing the Prime Minister to a Nazi War Criminal?

Oh how hilarious

[Elwood Blues]

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[Croesy Blue]

Frankie Boyle is excellent these days. and yes I thought those were funny.

Yeah if anything Boyle as improved with age, he's moved away from being just shocking and comes across as quite an intelligent and funny guy.

I think the problem with that list Eric wrote is on it's own as a written list it isn't funny but well delivered it would be.

[Rjk]

Yeah if anything Boyle as improved with age, he's moved away from being just shocking and comes across as quite an intelligent and funny guy.

I think the problem with that list Eric wrote is on it's own as a written list it isn't funny but well delivered it would be.

Boyle was good when he first came onto the scene, but then I think he tried to do too much too quickly and the quality dropped - to the point where the criticism that he isn't funny just says the most offensive thing he can think of was becoming more valid.
Seems much more measured with his output these days and I definitely agree that he's improved with age.

[Croesy Blue]

Boyle was good when he first came onto the scene, but then I think he tried to do too much too quickly and the quality dropped - to the point where the criticism that he isn't funny just says the most offensive thing he can think of was becoming more valid.
Seems much more measured with his output these days and I definitely agree that he's improved with age.

Yeah completely agree. I saw him trial his new stand up at the start of the year and even though it wasn't 100% finished it was one of the best I'd seen. Would recomend him to anyone.

Unless you really love the tories and can't take a joke.