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Boom Boom! I can see your argument and where you're going with it, i aint got no beef with you. I didn't know that you were married to a Black lady (hope that's not offensive) but due to your political beliefs, you'd be the last person i'd have down as racist (I remember Feedback) I'd just say this. This Greg FA bloke just seems way out of touch, a bit of an idiot in a position of power, clumsy is putting it Mild. He had to go in my opinion. You know what though, most people that i meet that use a bit of Racism are usually alright, they're a bit thick and a total contradiction. They do need educating but i don't think that the state are the best at those kinds of things, or charities, agencies etc. It's got to be at home.
He was Chairman actually. You seem to struggle with the evidence bit you demand of others. Given the separation of roles and the CEO would be doing most of the delivering, what do you think was Greg Clarke's greatest achievement in ensuring that the diversity and inclusion agenda was furthered in the FA?
Yes I know some overt racists, and Greg FA bloke doesn't seem like one of those.
He managed to display a level of prejudice against women, gay people, South Asians and he use a no longer accepted term for black people in one sitting.
I think the use of the term was ignorance rather than racism, but in that position he shouldn't have been ignorant of these things.
Shes not my wife, shes my best mates wife.
Black is only a label and wouldn't bother her in the slightest.
My point here is that we are in danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water. If the FA was making great strides regarding inclusivity under Clark (and i dont know of this is true or not but if it is), him going may have not been the best outcome.
Its a murky world politics, and this thread shows that, whether right or wrong, you have to tread carefully in the nodern world.
Saying that, Babyhands Bunkerbitch has shown what happens when you have a leader who is a racist piece of shit and you have no rules at all. That's when division really starts.
Apologies for saying CEO rather than Chairman.
As for your question, I have no idea. What I do know is the FA like the other home nations associations actively encourage football right across society.
Do I think the terms used are outdated - yes of course.
Do I think it warrants whats happened - probably not, but I am just one voice amongst millions.
There's plenty in this thread who think the Chairman of the FA should always use the most up to date terms.
Since most people still say linesman, are they sexist?
Here are the evidential words of the Chief Executive of the FA. If you can find mention of the contribution Clarke made then you are a better man than I.
We respect his decision and are clear that his words simply do not reflect the views of the FA, our people and the organisation we are today.
https://www.thefa.com/news/2020/nov/...atement-111120
I have no idea of the contribution that he (clarke) may have made. We'd need to see the minutes. But it would be unusual for a Chairman to not set the agenda and manage the board, so I'd say its quite likely that Clarke had at least some input in pushing the (equality and diversity) agenda forward. But to be sure either way, youd need to see the minutes
So what we are left with are two appearances before Parliamentary Select Committees. The first where he described the possibility of the there may be racism in the FA as "fluff"
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/f...-a3662296.html
And the next last week that forced him to leave. Your argument seems to be that there might be some minutes in between that shows that this poor bloke was wronged on both occasions. Sometimes you just need to let an argument go because the bloke you are standing up for is just not worth it!
I've not said anything of the sort. The guy jumped ship because he used archaic language, but that in itself isn't racist or discriminatory.
I've made my point, he may have been a closest racist or not, I really don't know. But he was effectively removed because he used the wrong terminology
The FA have been forced to do some work regarding racism in the game
Its all hot air
And when a guy who is at the top uses , not for the first time , ignorant and outdated terminology he's got to walk the plank
Plenty of people who are not racist use the term coloured but they are not at the top of the FA
At the very least he's thick as feck