Reply With QuoteHow many consecutive seasons has Warnock had in the PL? I'd regard survival in the top flight far above promotion.Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
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Really? Warnock has proved himself to be a good manager if you want promotion. He's never done it in the top division. He didn't with us.
His record in the top flight is woeful even compared with Dave Jones.
How many consecutive seasons has Warnock had in the PL? I'd regard survival in the top flight far above promotion.
He's never had the chance , we were a few dodgy decisions away from staying up , I have no doubt he could have established us as a mid table side
It wouldn't have been pretty to watch but like the Stoke pulis side it would have given south east Wales top flight football for more than a strawberry season , the way people forget what warlock did for us is laughable . And the same people are very quickly forgetting how well Harris did for us last season too.
Its like championship manager on here its ****ing cringeworthy
Do you wish to re-evaluate this comment or would you like the full stat analysis?
Pulis has had lots of jobs in the Champ where he's done nothing. His record of kicking clubs on is quite poor too. I'm not knocking him and they definitely won't get relegated but clearly both have flaws. Warnock is probably a better manager in the Champ, Pulis certainly is in the PL.
Warnock has had plenty of failures in the Championship as well. Warnock has had the longer career, but Pulis is unlikely to trouble Warnock's Championship stats as he has had far less time managing in the Championship as he was keeping a Premier League team going for many seasons.
How many relegations has Pulis had?
What do you mean "he's never had the chance"? He's has plenty, look at all the promotions he's had. He's had plenty of chances and usually fails, look at all the relegations he's had.
Good to see you’ve taken a break, from posting about abusing and demeaning women.
Everything I’ve written is a fact.
When you’ve got a moment, pull up your trousers and take a break from Pornhub, to explain how anyone with half a brain wouldn’t agree Pulis CV is far more impressive than Warnock’s?
This has to be up there with the most idiotic posts EVER, on here!
I don't watch porn I leave that to people who cannot get real sex , like yourself
Its interesting that someone as right wing as you has such care and compassion for women
I think its all nonsense
If you don't think we were just a few dodgy refereeing decisions away from staying up you clearly didn't watch cardiff city when we were in the top flight under warnock as you say you did
You are a fibber and I claim my 5 quid
Warnock did what only one other manager , with the team in a red shirt , did since 1962 and thats get us promoted
We went down because of a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions , the club should have stuck with him but as usual our fans turned
Now we have Harris who took us to the play offs but already people want to see the back of him
Its like talking to the dead on here
Pulis has never been relegated, Warnock five times and QPR and Crystal Palace also sacked him when in relegation position and both stayed up! That’s why we should have sacked him at Christmas and put a Premier League Manager in place like Pulis and we would still be in top League!
You could equally claim from a raft of reasons.
Failing to win any of our opening 8 games.
Failing to bring in any decent striker of note.
Failing to get anything from Huddersfield and Newcastle early on in the season when they were both down to 10 men.
Not taking our chances against Burnley.
Weird team selection at already relegated Fulham and a bizarre substitution.
Having one of the worst home defensive records in PL history.
Having the worst passing stats in the PL in a decade.
Losing 24 games in a season. No side has ever stayed in the PL having lost so many games, even when there were 22 teams in the PL. Only a few relegated teams lost as many (or lost more).
Do you seriously think that if we were still in with a chance of survival going into the last game of the season, we would have played the same team and given them such freedom? No chance.
Yes, the Chelsea decision was a big one. We don't mention the Sol Bamba offside goal against Brighton in the last seconds, though.
We had a few dodgy decisions go against us. We had dodgy decisions go for us. That's football. To blame relegation on a few refereeing decisions is absolute nonsense. We made our own luck at the end of the day. We simply weren't good enough. I reckon, without Etheridge, our season would have been even worse.
Agreed.
Bring out your dead
I think some on here are totally unfair on Neil Warnock.
Took us from potential danger to promotion while galvanizing the fans at a time when it was desperately needed.
We were unlucky in the Premier League.
If VAR had been implemented it could have been different not to mention the Sala tragedy.
I remain a big fan of his.
I think the bloke did a superb job
He bought some duds , who doesn't
If he hadn't come in we could easily have gone down , no problem
As it was a year later we go up and nearly stayed up
I don't buy the argument that we could easily have gone down after 11 games, I even think Trollope would have got us out of the mess, but it was clear he was going nowhere.
I don't disagree with you otherwise. I think he did a very good job for us, certainly in getting promotion. I don't agree with your assessment of a few dodgy decisions costing us a place in the top division.
As for nearly stayed up, let's look at it. Feb 2019, won back to back games for the first time that season when Zohore scuffed one in at Southampton. We were a point above 18th. We won 3 of the last 12 games, losing 9 and spent the last 3 months in the bottom 3. We were 5 points adrift when we had to win at Brighton, which we did. We followed that up by losing at Fulham and at home to a good away side, Palace. When Palace beat us, we were 5 points adrift. Being relegated 5 points behind 17th with a game to go isn't nearly stayed up. We weren't unlucky on the last day of the season. We were well gone with a game left to play. The win at Old Trafford was the cherry on the dog turd. As I've said, there were lots of things at fault that season, including Warnock, proving he isn't a PL manager.
If he did, you’d be knocking one out over them!
I don’t think anyone questions the positives Warnock did.
Posts are in response to the Ridiculous post saying he is a better manager than Pulis, when the respective CV’s would show otherwise.
Personally, if Warnock had been more positive at an awful Fulham, and not made the mystifying decision to bring on an out of his depth Healy as our saviour, instead of Reid, we MAY have stayed up.
[QUOTE=Bluebird23;5136172]If he did, you’d be knocking one out over them
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