I don't think Wales' latest miserable defeat even got a mention on here did it? Didn't watch it myself, but it sounded awful - I've not seen enough of Wales lately to know if there is any thing to this, but, from a distance, it looks like the players are not putting it in for the newish coach.

Also, there was a result overnight which I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime. All Blacks 15 Argentina 25.