Radio 1 refusing to play Fairytale of New York without edit.

[Croesy Blue]

I agree, not all are offended, but there are some people, albeit a very few in number, who feel the need to be offended by everyone and everything. We had a girl work for us, just out of university, and she almost had a stroke when one of our clients referred to his partner as half-caste (a term the partner was comfortable with). She didn't last long. She was white.

What a load or bollocks

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What a load or bollocks

her name was Lily, and **** me, she moaned about everything.

[Croesy Blue]

Okay I hear you....so chanting we can see you holding hands to the Brighton fans is excluding them from modern life or is it just having a bit of fun with them because Brighton prides itself on its gay community?

I mean that’s on the soft side of it and if that was in isolation and the only bit of homophobia ever heard or faced it probably wouldn’t be a problem would it?

[Whisperer]

I mean that’s on the soft side of it and if that was in isolation and the only bit of homophobia ever heard or faced it probably wouldn’t be a problem would it?

You may say it's soft but there were threats to throw people out of the ground who chants it....and I do still think it's quite funny much the same as our kev McNaughton song always brings a smile to my face.

[Croesy Blue]

Also is it me that thought it was funny the first time they heard it 20 years ago but now think it’s been run into the ground? I’m always shocked that there are still people laughing their heads off at it .

[Hilts]

If its upset Laurence Fox then great. Hope they edit a few more.

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You may say it's soft but there were threats to throw people out of the ground who chants it....and I do still think it's quite funny much the same as our kev McNaughton song always brings a smile to my face.

Many years ago I worked with a Brighton fan who just so happened to walk on the other side of the street and he thought it was funny with no malice intended.

[lardy]

Many years ago I worked with a Brighton fan who just so happened to walk on the other side of the street and he thought it was funny with no malice intended.

You shouldn't be singing songs at him in the office though, really.

[celticknight]

Many years ago I worked with a Brighton fan who just so happened to walk on the other side of the street and he thought it was funny with no malice intended.

It's funny how you always manage to remember someone who was able to hand-wave or justify whatever is being discussed.

"Oh, we used to have a black guy work with us! "Darkie" we all called him, he never told us to stop so it couldn't have been racist!"

You worked with 1 student, so everyone under a certain age is as "precious" as her. You remember 1 Brighton fan who apparently spoke on behalf of all Brighton fans. You remember 1 client who called his wife "half-caste" (a term the Oxford Dictionary calls "offensive") but because she never stopped her husband from using it every mixed race person in the entire world is now comfortable with you using that term.

I'll call you a c*nt then. I called someone a c*nt before and he laughed, so that means I can call everyone big ol' c*nty c*nt too then. And no one is allowed to tell me otherwise. And that word should be taken off the swear filter, cos 1 person laughed at it so it's not offensive.

[adz-a32]

As I said, the triggered generation are easily offended. Its a word, and it only has the meaning you decide to give it.

“triggered generation”

[adz-a32]

If you drew a Venn Diagram of "people getting offended at what Radio 1 has done" and "people who are completely oblivious to the concept of radio edits" you'd have a circle.

Absolute weapons. Like that Daily Fail columnist who said they'd censor this but still play that "wet-assed pussy" song. They censor that too, you muppet.

Even on Apple Music radio that is censored. I was listening to Capital the other day and they censored ‘codeine got me tripping’ in the song Lemonade. A few years ago, Big Sean’s song ‘I don’t **** with you’ was censored and that basically blanked the whole song as it was repetitive and he was rapping “****” and “bitch” a lot

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You shouldn't be singing songs at him in the office though, really.

Well there is that.

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It's funny how you always manage to remember someone who was able to hand-wave or justify whatever is being discussed.

"Oh, we used to have a black guy work with us! "Darkie" we all called him, he never told us to stop so it couldn't have been racist!"

You worked with 1 student, so everyone under a certain age is as "precious" as her. You remember 1 Brighton fan who apparently spoke on behalf of all Brighton fans. You remember 1 client who called his wife "half-caste" (a term the Oxford Dictionary calls "offensive") but because she never stopped her husband from using it every mixed race person in the entire world is now comfortable with you using that term.

I'll call you a c*nt then. I called someone a c*nt before and he laughed, so that means I can call everyone big ol' c*nty c*nt too then. And no one is allowed to tell me otherwise. And that word should be taken off the swear filter, cos 1 person laughed at it so it's not offensive.

You wouldn't be the first to call me a ****, and ill hasten to add you won't be the last. Quack quack its all water off a ducks back.

My anecdotes are based on life experience. Some of us venture beyond the end of our street on occasion. Its a big world out there.

[celticknight]

My anecdotes are based on life experience.

anecdotal

adjective

"(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research."

But please, feel free to continue saying how some of your opinions are correct and the majority of people who think otherwise are wrong.

As you say, it's a "big world" out there. And most people have decided that some of the terms you wish you could still say belong in the past

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anecdotal
adjective

"(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research."

Thanks, I always wondered whether I knew what anecdote meant, and you have clarified my understanding was correct all along. There is a reason people, such has me, use anecdote - its to show it is based on personal experience alone.

But please, feel free to continue saying how some of your opinions are correct and the majority of people who think otherwise are wrong.

I've never once said my opinions are correct. Its unclear from what you have written how an opinion, being subjective, can be correct or otherwise. Perhaps you can elucidate further?

As you say, it's a "big world" out there. And most people have decided that some of the terms you wish you could still say belong in the past

I've never once said such terms should stay. You're just making things up now to suit your narrative.

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My anecdotes are based on life experience. Some of us venture beyond the end of our street on occasion. Its a big world out there.

yes your tales of the wife of a client and of working with a Brighton fan paint a picture of a life full of adventure and daredevil excitement

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yes your tales of the wife of a client and of working with a Brighton fan paint a picture of a life full of adventure and daredevil excitement

it gets better, these were clients of an accountant

[Gofer Blue]

Just catching up with this thread this morning as I see it has reached the 5 page mark, so must be interesting I thought. Sadly no, just full of keyboard warriors once again calling each other names. Some of you need to take a good long look at what you have written and reflect on it. The word shameful comes to mind but that is obviously such an old fashioned expression, shame being a concept that belongs in the past I guess. What comes out of your mouth comes from your heart.

[elytillidie]

Nick Cave has his say:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nick-cave-...103735906.html
Nick Cave weighs in on ‘Fairytale of New York’ controversy: ‘The BBC continue to mutilate an artefact of immense cultural value’
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Cave went on to claim that the change in lyrics means that “Fairytale of New York” is no longer a “great song”.

He said that the track becomes “a song that has been tampered with, compromised, tamed, and neutered and can no longer be called a great song”.

“It is a song that has lost its truth, its honour and integrity – a song that has knelt down and allowed the BBC to do its grim and sticky business,” Cave added.

The 63-year-old went on to suggest that instead of altering the lyrics, if they were deemed to be offensive then “Radio 1 should have made the decision to simply ban the song, and allow it to retain its outlaw spirit and its dignity”.

“In the end, I feel sorry for ‘Fairytale’, a song so gloriously problematic, as great works of art so often are, performed by one of the most scurrilous and seditious bands of our time, whose best shows were so completely and triumphantly out of order, they had to be seen to believed,” he said.

“Yet, time and time again the integrity of this magnificent song is tested."

Last year, the debate around the song was reignited again, after the uncensored version was performed in the Gavin and Stacey Christmas special.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOBvRs4btvE

Not a big Ed Sheeran fan but this live lounge duet with Anne-Marie is a good listen