Will/Can respect come back for differing opinions?

[Croesy Blue]

Part of the problem is that people have become far too easily offended, feeling the need to express faux outrage and indignation whilst forgetting that most of us are really quite moderate in what we think. If you believed everything you read on social media you'd think the world was divided into good and evil with nothing in between.

Another problem with social media is that it gives stupid people confidence and it makes intelligent people doubt themselves.

In my mind, the solution is to see most social media for what it is, a bit of fun, a new form of entertainment, and to not take it, or what is,written, too seriously at all.

I respectfully disagree that that's the only issue, I think people who have rightly been castigated for intolerant views like to hide being the facade of "people are offended by everything" and we shouldn't let this get used this way.

There has always been faux outrage, the book "so you've been publically shamed" by Jon Ronson is a good example of how cancel culture can be overblown.

But I find this is used as an excuse by the alt right to moan about being rightly called out. If someone has intolerant views they should be shouted down, it's not to do with people being offended it's about standing up for the rights of other human beings.

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I respectfully disagree that that's the only issue, I think people who have rightly been castigated for intolerant views like to hide being the facade of "people are offended by everything" and we shouldn't let this get used this way.

There has always been faux outrage, the book "so you've been publically shamed" by Jon Ronson is a good example of how cancel culture can be overblown.

But I find this is used as an excuse by the alt right to moan about being rightly called out. If someone has intolerant views they should be shouted down, it's not to do with people being offended it's about standing up for the rights of other human beings.

As I said to Eric, your response is symptomatic of the problem. You just cannot countenance that someone disagrees with you and you feel you have to point out theirs purported failings.

If someone is offended, so what? What does it actually mean - do they develop brain cancer as a result? no, they've let words affect them. Words. If you need to grab your breathe or have a sit down after someone has referred to you in a pejorative manner, then the issue really is with you.

I'll tell you what hurts - a kick in the bollocks, watching a loved one die, having inoperable cancer. They hurt but words themselves do not. you give words whatever meaning you want and you can choose to be affected by them, or you can choose to give them the merit they deserve.

If you're easily offended then the issue is with you, and not everyone else.

[Croesy Blue]

As I said to Eric, your response is symptomatic of the problem. You just cannot countenance that someone disagrees with you and you feel you have to point out theirs purported failings.

If someone is offended, so what? What does it actually mean - do they develop brain cancer as a result? no, they've let words affect them. Words. If you need to grab your breathe or have a sit down after someone has referred to you in a pejorative manner, then the issue really is with you.

I'll tell you what hurts - a kick in the bollocks, watching a loved one die, having inoperable cancer. They hurt but words themselves do not. you give words whatever meaning you want and you can choose to be affected by them, or you can choose to give them the merit they deserve.

If you're easily offended then the issue is with you, and not everyone else.

I just think you can't see the difference between things that genuinley deserve people to get pushed back on. If we took your attitude to everything progress would never be made because anyone taking umbridge with anything would just be labled as taking offense.

Look throughout history and how progress has been made and how we slipped into dangerous times.

The Nazi's started by putting out propaganda saying all jews weren't human. Years before anyone stated arresting and killing jewish people. Just harmless bits of papers with Jewish people drawn as animals. Why are people offended by this, it's only words.

There is no harm in pushing back to people who are making others less free, have you ever read about the paradox of freedom?

I agree there is needless outrage but there always has been, but certain things need to be shouted down. It isn't because people are offended it's because it's the right thing to do. The strange thing is the pointless outrage usually comes from people who have your attitude.

People getting wound up by an asian person winning bake off. People getting offended by Sainsbury's havng black people in their advert, people getting offendedby divali decorations, people getting offended because they rightly get shouted down for saying something sexist, racist or homophobic.

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I just think you can't see the difference between things that genuinley deserve people to get pushed back on. If we took your attitude to everything progress would never be made because anyone taking umbridge with anything would just be labled as taking offense.

that's just not true, no one is advocating allowing misdeeds to go unpunished.

NB I'm surprised someone with your purported intellect cannot spell umbrage, unless of course we've all been spelling it incorrectly all along. Who knows with the way your own mind works.

Look throughout history and how progress has been made and how we slipped into dangerous times.

The Nazi's started by putting out propaganda saying all jews weren't human. Years before anyone stated arresting and killing jewish people. Just harmless bits of papers with Jewish people drawn as animals. Why are people offended by this, it's only words.

Godwin's law.

just so we know, who is currently saying X demographic aren't human....

There is no harm in pushing back to people who are making others less free, have you ever read about the paradox of freedom?

are you suggesting that being called poof etc makes the gay community feel like their freedoms are being eroded?

I agree there is needless outrage but there always has been, but certain things need to be shouted down. It isn't because people are offended it's because it's the right thing to do. The strange thing is the pointless outrage usually comes from people who have your attitude.

my issue is with the woke generation who feel the need to complain on behalf of everyone else, the majority of which don't actually feel offended by the purported offence.

People getting wound up by an asian person winning bake off.

yep, those that do are *****, what is your point

People getting offended by Sainsbury's havng black people in their advert

as above

people getting offendedby divali decorations

again, they're advertising themselves as ***** and doing the rest of us a favour so we know to avoid them.

people getting offended because they rightly get shouted down for saying something sexist, racist or homophobic.

what do words really matter. ever heard you're judged by deeds not words...

[NYCBlue]

As I said to Eric, your response is symptomatic of the problem. You just cannot countenance that someone disagrees with you and you feel you have to point out theirs purported failings.

If someone is offended, so what? What does it actually mean - do they develop brain cancer as a result? no, they've let words affect them. Words. If you need to grab your breathe or have a sit down after someone has referred to you in a pejorative manner, then the issue really is with you.

I'll tell you what hurts - a kick in the bollocks, watching a loved one die, having inoperable cancer. They hurt but words themselves do not. you give words whatever meaning you want and you can choose to be affected by them, or you can choose to give them the merit they deserve.

If you're easily offended then the issue is with you, and not everyone else.

"The problem"? Don't you mean "my problem"?

If you've got a problem with people being offended, and expressing themselves thus, isn't at least part of the issue with you?

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"The problem"? Don't you mean "my problem"?

If you've got a problem with people being offended, and expressing themselves thus, isn't at least part of the issue with you?

perhaps it is, after all no-one is forcing me to adopt this position. But then I'm not so sensitive that I need to wear metal underwear in case my trousers rub me the wrong way.

my issue is that people get offended for the slightest things when there are far more pressing issues to worry about.

[NYCBlue]

perhaps it is, after all no-one is forcing me to adopt this position. But then I'm not so sensitive that I need to wear metal underwear in case my trousers rub me the wrong way.

my issue is that people get offended for the slightest things when there are far more pressing issues to worry about.

People are stupid. They think and say stupid things. They used to keep quiet for the most part, but now that's not the case. We just have to to learn to deal with it.

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As I said to Eric, your response is symptomatic of the problem. You just cannot countenance that someone disagrees with you and you feel you have to point out theirs purported failings.

If someone is offended, so what? What does it actually mean - do they develop brain cancer as a result? no, they've let words affect them. Words. If you need to grab your breathe or have a sit down after someone has referred to you in a pejorative manner, then the issue really is with you.

I'll tell you what hurts - a kick in the bollocks, watching a loved one die, having inoperable cancer. They hurt but words themselves do not. you give words whatever meaning you want and you can choose to be affected by them, or you can choose to give them the merit they deserve.

If you're easily offended then the issue is with you, and not everyone else.

the voice of reason, all opinions are valid and subject to discussion, shutting down the views of large swathes of the population only leads to protest votes, further division and animosity, and in extreme cases a move toward tinpot dictators with little moustaches, we've seen these scenarios play out in many other nations, when you forfeit the ability to discuss ALL concerns (regardless of how sensitive they may be) you end up with tyranny, people think it can't happen here.