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  1. #161

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Who knows.

    To recap, to resolve the Withdrawal Agreement and ensure no border infrastructure between the UK and the EU in Ireland, Theresa May said there were two choices, a backstop keeping us in the Single Market and Customs Union until an alternative could be developed or checks on goods and food products between GB and Northern Ireland.

    She said no UK Prime Minister could advocate the latter. The Conservative ERG rebels and Boris Johnson together with the DUP voted together to ensure the withdrawal deal failed and brought down May in the process.

    Johnson as Prime Minister negotiated a withdrawal deal which included GB/NI border checks. He visited NI during the election campaign and said that there would not be any checks. The DUP supported the deal.

    Johnson then negotiated the trade deal with the EU that confirmed these checks to ensure that non-compliant foodstuffs did not enter the EU via the border and goods did not evade any necessary customs tariffs or declarations. The DUP voted through the deal.

    The new processes started kicking into life, including. guess what, checks between GB and NI. Shortages of many products on NI supermarket shelves because of the new bureaucracy.

    The DUP cried this is not what we voted for or against. Loyalists started targeting customs infrastructure at Larne, threatening the people supposed to perform the checks. The DUP started a campaign to rip up the agreements made. People start taking to the streets. Johnson has gone to ground acting like it is nothing to do with him.

    Simple really!
    Imagine the hilarity if Boris Johnson gets bumped off by an enraged Unionist from a loyalist paramilitary!

    Or is that only me?

  2. #162

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Who knows.

    To recap, to resolve the Withdrawal Agreement and ensure no border infrastructure between the UK and the EU in Ireland, Theresa May said there were two choices, a backstop keeping us in the Single Market and Customs Union until an alternative could be developed or checks on goods and food products between GB and Northern Ireland.

    She said no UK Prime Minister could advocate the latter. The Conservative ERG rebels and Boris Johnson together with the DUP voted together to ensure the withdrawal deal failed and brought down May in the process.

    Johnson as Prime Minister negotiated a withdrawal deal which included GB/NI border checks. He visited NI during the election campaign and said that there would not be any checks. The DUP supported the deal.

    Johnson then negotiated the trade deal with the EU that confirmed these checks to ensure that non-compliant foodstuffs did not enter the EU via the border and goods did not evade any necessary customs tariffs or declarations. The DUP voted through the deal.

    The new processes started kicking into life, including. guess what, checks between GB and NI. Shortages of many products on NI supermarket shelves because of the new bureaucracy.

    The DUP cried this is not what we voted for or against. Loyalists started targeting customs infrastructure at Larne, threatening the people supposed to perform the checks. The DUP started a campaign to rip up the agreements made. People start taking to the streets. Johnson has gone to ground acting like it is nothing to do with him.

    Simple really!

  3. #163

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    God , wishing death on people now what a wonderful world we live in .

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    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Who knows.

    To recap, to resolve the Withdrawal Agreement and ensure no border infrastructure between the UK and the EU in Ireland, Theresa May said there were two choices, a backstop keeping us in the Single Market and Customs Union until an alternative could be developed or checks on goods and food products between GB and Northern Ireland.

    She said no UK Prime Minister could advocate the latter. The Conservative ERG rebels and Boris Johnson together with the DUP voted together to ensure the withdrawal deal failed and brought down May in the process.

    Johnson as Prime Minister negotiated a withdrawal deal which included GB/NI border checks. He visited NI during the election campaign and said that there would not be any checks. The DUP supported the deal.

    Johnson then negotiated the trade deal with the EU that confirmed these checks to ensure that non-compliant foodstuffs did not enter the EU via the border and goods did not evade any necessary customs tariffs or declarations. The DUP voted through the deal.

    The new processes started kicking into life, including. guess what, checks between GB and NI. Shortages of many products on NI supermarket shelves because of the new bureaucracy.

    The DUP cried this is not what we voted for or against. Loyalists started targeting customs infrastructure at Larne, threatening the people supposed to perform the checks. The DUP started a campaign to rip up the agreements made. People start taking to the streets. Johnson has gone to ground acting like it is nothing to do with him.

    Simple really!
    Good post.

    Simon Jenkins wrote a piece in today's Guardian where he argued that Johnson's Brexit lies (and the DUP complicity) can only be resolved by a government retreat to a softer Theresa May type Brexit, or by much closer economic (and then political) alignment between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

    As Johnson is unlikely to admit the lies, and given his past record will ignore or bluster or bullshit around the consequences of a border in the Irish Sea, a United Ireland is getting closer. A Brexit bonus at last!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eland-politics

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  6. #166

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    a rebound in February with confidence picking up

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56729631

  7. #167

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    a rebound in February with confidence picking up

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56729631
    Yep .

    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-u...an-parliament/

  8. #168

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    a rebound in February with confidence picking up

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56729631
    "London Brexit hit worse than expected"

    https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...dy-2021-04-15/

    "One trillion of assets moved out of London"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-b1832563.html

    Guess we can carry on playing this game for ages.....

  9. #169

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiss Peter View Post
    "London Brexit hit worse than expected"

    https://www.reuters.com/business/fin...dy-2021-04-15/

    "One trillion of assets moved out of London"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-b1832563.html

    Guess we can carry on playing this game for ages.....
    Were likely to see wins and losses over the next few years.

    I dont think the doom and gloom pre /post Brexit from either side of project fear will fully materialised

  10. #170

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Brexit worse than expected and more to come https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-b...-idUKKBN2C22ZB

  11. #171

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Were likely to see wins and losses over the next few years.

    I dont think the doom and gloom pre /post Brexit from either side of project fear will fully materialised


    some more like you

  12. #172

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Were likely to see wins and losses over the next few years.

    I dont think the doom and gloom pre /post Brexit from either side of project fear will fully materialised
    What are either sides of project fear?

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  14. #174

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Project Fear!

    You need to "believe" more

  15. #175

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    UK signs £682m trade deal with Serbia its a boost for Jaguar Land Rover .

    Happening slowly bit happening ,although there not in the EU yet they applied in 2009 may see something happening in 2026 , my god it knows how to drag on an negotiation

  16. #176

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    UK signs £682m trade deal with Serbia its a boost for Jaguar Land Rover .

    Happening slowly bit happening ,although there not in the EU yet they applied in 2009 may see something happening in 2026 , my god it knows how to drag on an negotiation
    "The preferential trading terms secured by the Agreement will permit British business to trade as they did before 1 January 2021."

    Let's all celebrate something that hasn't actually got worse!

  17. #177

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by Veg1960 View Post
    "The preferential trading terms secured by the Agreement will permit British business to trade as they did before 1 January 2021."

    Let's all celebrate something that hasn't actually got worse!
    Indeed like that positiveness.

    I guess we have to do this country by country whcih if we get the same result at least it steady as we go step by step , cant help think most countries will want a trade deal with us as a major economy ,which hopefully helps in uncertain times .

  18. #178

    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56867752

    Another deal nearly in the bag , not a rollover one this time

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