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    Great news for Brexit voting Bridgend https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...045635072?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Great news for Brexit voting Bridgend https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...045635072?s=21
    Must have been offered huge cash incentives me thinks .

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    Re: This Brexit malarkey is going well

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Must have been offered huge cash incentives me thinks .
    Do you?

    I think that (despite the expected denials) Brexit was a major factor and the deal to acquire a modern assembly plant in France (which is in the EU!) with Smart car production thrown in offset any residual jingoism by the Brexit supporting owner.

    Like Dyson to Singapore - money and markets talk to the cheerleaders of Britain First and Taking Back Control. Profit before posturing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Do you?

    I think that (despite the expected denials) Brexit was a major factor and the deal to acquire a modern assembly plant in France (which is in the EU!) with Smart car production thrown in offset any residual jingoism by the Brexit supporting owner.

    Like Dyson to Singapore - money and markets talk to the cheerleaders of Britain First and Taking Back Control. Profit before posturing!
    Business men will take the better commercial deal, the new plant on the German French border is a fully ready to manufacture site Bridgend wasn't and then we have the wonderful M4 infrastructure issues that has stopped any businesses coming to Wales never mind the decades of bridge tolls , these are logistics brick walls we suffer from .

    Its a petrol and diesel machine not a smart one.

    We just got out bid is my guess.

    The new Defender being built in Belpher in Derbyshire is going ahead ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Business men will take the better commercial deal, the new plant on the German French border is a fully ready to manufacture site Bridgend wasn't and then we have the wonderful M4 infrastructure issues that has stopped any businesses coming to Wales never mind the decades of bridge tolls , these are logistics brick walls we suffer from .

    Its a petrol and diesel machine not a smart one.

    We just got out bid is my guess.

    The new Defender being built in Belpher in Derbyshire is going ahead ??
    Delusional

  6. #26

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    Thankfully the wetherspoons guy can't move his pubs to Europe otherwise we could tick off all the squares on brexiteer traitor bingo.

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    Tell you what lets blame everything on Brexit , Covid or Boris .

    Wales has always been the number one pick in Europe for private industries and businessmen ,public health and educations , transportation infrastructures second to none .

    I bet the world would live to buy in our commercial enterprise modelling , forward thinking business planning as we are are so far ahead of everyone its frightening .

    The only failure and delusional thoughts are from the 20 years of poor governance and decision making ,outperforming public services in Wales .

    Its not Brexit its poor management ,pity the folk of Wales cant see that ,even though the Brexit debate and vote got them all riled up ,lol , how sad

  8. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Tell you what lets blame everything on Brexit , Covid or Boris .

    Wales has always been the number one pick in Europe for private industries and businessmen ,public health and educations , transportation infrastructures second to none .

    I bet the world would live to buy in our commercial enterprise modelling , forward thinking business planning as we are are so far ahead of everyone its frightening .

    The only failure and delusional thoughts are from the 20 years of poor governance and decision making ,outperforming public services in Wales .

    Its not Brexit its poor management ,pity the folk of Wales cant see that ,even though the Brexit debate and vote got them all riled up ,lol , how sad
    Ah, the familiar 'cat walking on the keyboard' implosion. I don't live in Wales and never have but this is obviously a decision made because of a number of factors which are all caused by or heavily influenced by Brexit.

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    "The site's location on the French-German border, only 200km from Stuttgart, gives excellent access to supply chains, automotive talent and target markets."

    Hmm I wonder what major event coming up might affect supply chain and distribution??? Can't put my finger on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Ah, the familiar 'cat walking on the keyboard' implosion. I don't live in Wales and never have but this is obviously a decision made because of a number of factors which are all caused by or heavily influenced by Brexit.
    I have lived and breathed Wales all my life , love the City and surrounding area , only trouble with it on any subject matter its always someones else's fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Tell you what lets blame everything on Brexit , Covid or Boris .

    Wales has always been the number one pick in Europe for private industries and businessmen ,public health and educations , transportation infrastructures second to none .

    I bet the world would live to buy in our commercial enterprise modelling , forward thinking business planning as we are are so far ahead of everyone its frightening .

    The only failure and delusional thoughts are from the 20 years of poor governance and decision making ,outperforming public services in Wales .

    Its not Brexit its poor management ,pity the folk of Wales cant see that ,even though the Brexit debate and vote got them all riled up ,lol , how sad
    Yeah, must have been a really difficult decision whether to place your factory in a market of 600 million or 60 million people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    "The site's location on the French-German border, only 200km from Stuttgart, gives excellent access to supply chains, automotive talent and target markets."

    Hmm I wonder what major event coming up might affect supply chain and distribution??? Can't put my finger on it.
    And remember its a fully built plant , where as Bridgend would need investments and builds , have decent viable access routes in and out , subsidy check was bigger .

    Not wanting to state the obvious if you can save some millions as a businessmen man surely you do Brexit or no Brexit and reverse any decision you wish to make on a site structures , purchase, price , best new business subsidy/support package .

    Probably at the time the Welsh Government financial support structure was the better , now it not as its simply been out bid or WAG fell sleep at the wheel , who knows ?

    That doesn't stop these people having a few on out of Europe being better as a nation it may not fits his or Dyson's model though , they are talking about the UK in general , in as much we accuse them of double standards one cant help think we blame every decision on bad Tories or Brexit .

    Maybe Wales should have had a better / sharper enterprise plan to attract businesses well before Brexit , instead of relying on Euro handouts , moaning about others all through these decades sitting back on the public sector jobs .

    Hey they could even do what they want the Boris Government to do in England and tax the rich more as they have that power now o, or even attack those fortunate to own a second home tax in wales via the LTT system surcharge l, increase Rateable values of properties over 750k , charge for prescriptions of the wealthy , reduce corporation tax to attract businesses ,etc etc etc ??

    Nah rather blame some else and moan and do nothing as its someones else fault , devolved responsibility my arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veg1960 View Post
    Yeah, must have been a really difficult decision whether to place your factory in a market of 600 million or 60 million people.
    Yeah, but Jim Radcliffe was seemingly happy with permits to get into Kent days of delays at lorry parks and ports for their just in time component supply chains. It was the Brynglas tunnel they couldn't cope with. What don't you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    And remember its a fully built plant , where as Bridgend would need investments and builds , have decent viable access routes in and out , subsidy check was bigger .

    Not wanting to state the obvious if you can save some millions as a businessmen man surely you do Brexit or no Brexit and reverse any decision you wish to make on a site structures , purchase, price , best new business subsidy/support package .

    Probably at the time the Welsh Government financial support structure was the better , now it not as its simply been out bid or WAG fell sleep at the wheel , who knows ?

    That doesn't stop these people having a few on out of Europe being better as a nation it may not fits his or Dyson's model though , they are talking about the UK in general , in as much we accuse them of double standards one cant help think we blame every decision on bad Tories or Brexit .

    Maybe Wales should have had a better / sharper enterprise plan to attract businesses well before Brexit , instead of relying on Euro handouts , moaning about others all through these decades sitting back on the public sector jobs .

    Hey they could even do what they want the Boris Government to do in England and tax the rich more as they have that power now o, or even attack those fortunate to own a second home tax in wales via the LTT system surcharge l, increase Rateable values of properties over 750k , charge for prescriptions of the wealthy , reduce corporation tax to attract businesses ,etc etc etc ??

    Nah rather blame some else and moan and do nothing as its someones else fault , devolved responsibility my arse
    I couldn't make sense of most of that, but thanks for pointing out 'the obvious' that the UK government couldn't raise taxes until we left the EU. I never knew UK tax policy was decided in Brussels... I wonder if Phil Collins realised that when he threatened (!) to emigrate to Europe if a Labour government was elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I couldn't make sense of most of that, but thanks for pointing out 'the obvious' that the UK government couldn't raise taxes until we left the EU. I never knew UK tax policy was decided in Brussels... I wonder if Phil Collins realised that when he threatened (!) to emigrate to Europe if a Labour government was elected?
    Move to Wales its lovely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Ah, the familiar 'cat walking on the keyboard' implosion. I don't live in Wales and never have but this is obviously a decision made because of a number of factors which are all caused by or heavily influenced by Brexit.
    Move to Wales make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Yeah, but Jim Radcliffe was seemingly happy with permits to get into Kent days of delays at lorry parks and ports for their just in time component supply chains. It was the Brynglas tunnel they couldn't cope with. What don't you get?
    Yeh bloody tunnels , 20 years of congestion .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I have lived and breathed Wales all my life , love the City and surrounding area , only trouble with it on any subject matter its always someones else's fault
    So are you blaming yourself for Ineos not putting their production in bridgend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Yeh bloody tunnels , 20 years of congestion .
    The tunnels predated the Act of Devolution by 30 years. I guess there was free-flowing traffic until the Assembly was formed. Amazingly though in those 20 years the Irish economy has boomed even though massive amounts of their imports and exports travel through crumbling Welsh infrastructure. A question to an Irish haulier from Cork or Tipperary whether the Brynglas tunnel or the Channel Tunnel is their biggest problem in 2021 might solve the riddle you are grappling with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    The tunnels predated the Act of Devolution by 30 years. I guess there was free-flowing traffic until the Assembly was formed. Amazingly though in those 20 years the Irish economy has boomed even though massive amounts of their imports and exports travel through crumbling Welsh infrastructure. A question to an Irish haulier from Cork or Tipperary whether the Brynglas tunnel or the Channel Tunnel is their biggest problem in 2021 might solve the riddle you are grappling with.
    I'm not grappling with anything I do know that many logistical companies were put off using Wales because of its very poor transport infrastructure and bridge tolls and settled their depots just off the tunnels and the bridge in England, measuring Eire with Wales is not the same in my humble view , we had a huge opportunity to better reach England and its parts via North , Mid and South Wales, sadly we never had a plan or a vision .

    Labour has had 20 years to get a grip .

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