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  1. #1

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    This is why an ‘in the know’ proper football man needs to be brought in, someone with decent contacts who after assessing the squad can wheel and deal in the window.
    That’s not how football works these days. It’s thanks to someone with old fashioned contacts we are in this mess. We need a proper recruitment team that’s seperate from the coaching. We are miles behind on that department. Dalman and Choo sell cars ffs.

  2. #2

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    That’s not how football works these days. It’s thanks to someone with old fashioned contacts we are in this mess. We need a proper recruitment team that’s seperate from the coaching. We are miles behind on that department. Dalman and Choo sell cars ffs.
    It was one of Warnock’s good points being ‘in the know’, players such as Bamba, Hoilett, NML, Etheridge coming to us because of him really not because we’re Cardiff City. Of course he went on to waste money and burden us with dross but his initial bargain basement wheeling and dealing initially steadied a sinking ship.

  3. #3

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    It was one of Warnock’s good points being ‘in the know’, players such as Bamba, Hoilett, NML, Etheridge coming to us because of him really not because we’re Cardiff City. Of course he went on to waste money and burden us with dross but his initial bargain basement wheeling and dealing initially steadied a sinking ship.
    You are bang on and a lot of people seem to forget this and just focus on how rubbish he was when spending money.

  4. #4

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    I’m not one for knee jerk reactions as some fans tend to be virtually every week, but a performance like this demands questions are asked on all those responsible for that shambles. A repeat and he has to go.

  5. #5

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Should never have been appointed.

    Must be replaced now, the longer he remains in charge the more likely we are to go down. He needs to be replaced before its to late.

  6. #6

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    The fact that Lee Johnson has been mentioned and a possibility (certainly far more realistic than Eddie Howe.😂) lets hope Harris gets 6 points from the next 2 and its onwards and upwards.

  7. #7

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Out

  8. #8

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    He can turn it around but think he’s lost the fans now.

    Never going to get them back from here

  9. #9

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    I was in but today's performance was a side devoid of confidence, ideas, shape and threat. Think he's lost the dressing room and can't see him recovering from here.

    If he survives until Saturday he won't survive a defeat to Luton.

  10. #10

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Out

  11. #11

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Out, don't think all is right.
    The Mendez-Laing situation won't have helped, whatever the reasons for his departure. Although I believe it was right for Etheridge to leave, I'm pretty sure he was well liked by his teammates. Paterson was a big character, so no doubt his sale has had an effect. Tomlin's absence is another obvious negative.

    Could be that the spirit in the dressing room isn't quite what it was, but it's obviously the manager's job to sort that out.

  12. #12

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    I'd replace him with Paul Cook

  13. #13

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    You say we don't have resources but in the same breath say we have spent 5.5mil on a striker. As things go we are big spenders, we have a great new stadium and other top facilities in comparison. 2 seasons ago we were in the premier league
    Yeah 5.5m wasted along with probably big wages. Along with similar amount on a 30 plus centre half on loan elsewhere.

    Parachute payments going in the summer. We will be cutting back big time next summer.

    Its Harris or a cheap option.

    He can turn this around.

  14. #14

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Yeah 5.5m wasted along with probably big wages. Along with similar amount on a 30 plus centre half on loan elsewhere.

    Parachute payments going in the summer. We will be cutting back big time next summer.

    Its Harris or a cheap option.

    He can turn this around.
    I don't know if he can, I'm inclined to ditch him, but think maybe end of Dec.

    But for sure with Covid and our parachute payments ending, our free spending will be over, especially if our recent history of when the premier league money ran dry is to go on. Some people on here will be insufferable

  15. #15

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    I'd need to see what the alternatives are. I don't think we should just sack him with no plan in place and put ourselves at the mercy of the usual suspects waiting in the wings.

    I find it hard to believe he's really this bad. But then again, I usually do in such circumstances.

    I wonder what Ojo and Wilson think of this. Would they be having regular check-ins with the staff at Liverpool?

  16. #16

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    I'd need to see what the alternatives are. I don't think we should just sack him with no plan in place and put ourselves at the mercy of the usual suspects waiting in the wings.

    I find it hard to believe he's really this bad. But then again, I usually do in such circumstances.

    I wonder what Ojo and Wilson think of this. Would they be having regular check-ins with the staff at Liverpool?
    Ojo better hope nobody at Liverpool watched him play tonight.

  17. #17

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    I think we overachieved last year with the players we have, which makes this season look even worse.

    I don’t think our players are actually that good.

    Is Harris getting the best out of them? No

    Is Harris shown that he’s tactically astute? Not in my opinion

    Do I think he’s awful like some others? No

    I think the players do need to look at themselves

  18. #18

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    I think we overachieved last year with the players we have, which makes this season look even worse.

    I don’t think our players are actually that good.

    Is Harris getting the best out of them? No

    Is Harris shown that he’s tactically astute? Not in my opinion

    Do I think he’s awful like some others? No

    I think the players do need to look at themselves
    I agree. However, as I just posted elsewhere, the players need to look at themselves, but Harris has to know why things aren't working. If he doesn't, things will get worse and he shouldn't be in the job.

  19. #19

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    I think we overachieved last year with the players we have, which makes this season look even worse.

    I don’t think our players are actually that good.

    Is Harris getting the best out of them? No

    Is Harris shown that he’s tactically astute? Not in my opinion

    Do I think he’s awful like some others? No

    I think the players do need to look at themselves
    We were relegated from the premier league, people talk as if we came up from nowhere with Norman Tebbit on a bicycle with a piece of stale bread in our pocket.

    I think that the way we handled ourselves in the premier league the season prior, it was not unreasonable to expect a team to be sat in the top 6 the following season (Throughout!). Especially given our long standing in this division and spending.

  20. #20

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    It was one of Warnock’s good points being ‘in the know’, players such as Bamba, Hoilett, NML, Etheridge coming to us because of him really not because we’re Cardiff City. Of course he went on to waste money and burden us with dross but his initial bargain basement wheeling and dealing initially steadied a sinking ship.
    I’m sorry fella but the money wasted since and we continue to waste on the sort of contracts dished out far, far outweighs those 4 decent free transfers. Bamba being a classic case in point. Why give the guy a 2 year deal when he was out injured for a year? and was never going to be the same after such an injury at his age?

    Also, when people wax lyrical about the Hoilett and Bamba signings I don’t hear anyone mention Chamakh or Richardson.

  21. #21

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I’m sorry fella but the money wasted since and we continue to waste on the sort of contracts dished out far, far outweighs those 4 decent free transfers. Bamba being a classic case in point. Why give the guy a 2 year deal when he was out injured for a year? and was never going to be the same after such an injury at his age.

    Also, when people wax lyrical about the Hoilett and Bamba signings I don’t hear anyone mention Chamakh or Richardson.
    Gavin Whyte is now behind Mark Harris in the pecking order. Money well spent there

  22. #22

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Gavin Whyte is now behind Mark Harris in the pecking order. Money well spent there
    We paid transfer fees for 6 players in that window and Marlon Pack has probably been the most successful of the lot.

    What the **** was Warnock thinking?

  23. #23

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I’m sorry fella but the money wasted since and we continue to waste on the sort of contracts dished out far, far outweighs those 4 decent free transfers. Bamba being a classic case in point. Why give the guy a 2 year deal when he was out injured for a year? and was never going to be the same after such an injury at his age.

    Also, when people wax lyrical about the Hoilett and Bamba signings I don’t hear anyone mention Chamakh or Richardson.
    In fairness, they were also free transfers, very low risk signings on short term contracts. Both might have been ok. They weren't. No damage done.

  24. #24

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    In fairness, they were also free transfers, very low risk signings on short term contracts. Both might have been ok. They weren't. No damage done.
    What about the signings after them? Flint, Reid, Whyte, Murphy, Madine, Vaulks, Pack etc.

  25. #25

    Re: Harris in or Harris out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    What about the signings after them? Flint, Reid, Whyte, Murphy, Madine, Vaulks, Pack etc.
    Different story. I was merely replying to the signings of Richardson and Chamakh.

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