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Thread: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

  1. #251

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Realist
    Nothing real about saying that Harris has done well as manager if we finish 10th believe me.

    Unless a stronger team and going backwards 5 places is considered progress these days.

  2. #252

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Nothing real about saying that Harris has done well as manager if we finish 10th believe me.

    Unless a stronger team and going backwards 5 places is considered progress these days.
    5th last season was a false position thanks to Harris

  3. #253

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    I would suggest that Harris has focused on bringing in players who are younger and better on the ball and removing players who are older or less skilled from the squad. At the same time, we made the play-offs last year and competing for them again this year. We have a lot of players to replace this summer but if that trend continues then Harris has progressed the club.

    Has he done enough? Is he the manager to replace the base of our midfield with three of the four currently departing at end of 2022? Let's aim to review at the end of the year based on a full seasons evidence rather than just after we've lost to the best side in the league.

  4. #254

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I would suggest that Harris has focused on bringing in players who are younger and better on the ball and removing players who are older or less skilled from the squad. At the same time, we made the play-offs last year and competing for them again this year. We have a lot of players to replace this summer but if that trend continues then Harris has progressed the club.

    Has he done enough? Is he the manager to replace the base of our midfield with three of the four currently departing at end of 2022? Let's aim to review at the end of the year based on a full seasons evidence rather than just after we've lost to the best side in the league.
    Sensible post. Agreed.

  5. #255

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    A team that was relegated from the league above after 1 season, lost their best players, signed a load of shit and were struggling in the bottom half of the table when Harris took over, somehow gets them to play offs against all the odds but then had to rip up the squad again this summer, no pre season, new players taking time to settle, best player and reason we made the play offs last season with 18 goal contribution gets injured for the season but still has us in contention for play offs again this season even though our first 11 is decimated and squad not as deep as last season. Yes, I’d suggest anywhere between 5th -10th would be acceptable all things considered.
    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Squad Bob. Squad. Not first X1. Squad.
    So, who have we lost from last year’s squad that has made this years squad weaker? Flint had been dropped well before the end of the season. Paterson’s versatility is a miss, Sanderson had been dropped, Mendez-Laing on a good day was very effective, but he didn’t have enough of them and we swapped one reserve keeper for another- I don’t see how Osei-Tutu, Ojo, Wilson, Moore and youngsters breaking through like Harris and Bagan leaves us with a weaker squad.

  6. #256

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So, who have we lost from last year’s squad that has made this years squad weaker? Flint had been dropped well before the end of the season. Paterson’s versatility is a miss, Sanderson had been dropped, Mendez-Laing on a good day was very effective, but he didn’t have enough of them and we swapped one reserve keeper for another- I don’t see how Osei-Tutu, Ojo, Wilson, Moore and youngsters breaking through like Harris and Bagan leaves us with a weaker squad.
    It’s still starting a new season with many squad changes and new players needing time to settle. Dressing room dynamic changes. Ward is a miss off the bench too. We had more options off the bench post lockdown. Recently we’ve had to rely on the likes of Whyte starting and a bench full of defenders or kids. We literally had no striker option except Glatzel today.

    There are also a lot more injuries this season because of no pre season and games coming thick and fast and so if anything the squad needed to be bigger than last season to cope.

  7. #257

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    This is a serious question and I’m not trying to be provocative here in anyway: do you honestly think that ‘we clearly aren’t mediocre’?
    Yes. Mediocre teams don't win 4 games on the bounce, including two tough away games.

  8. #258

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So, who have we lost from last year’s squad that has made this years squad weaker? Flint had been dropped well before the end of the season. Paterson’s versatility is a miss, Sanderson had been dropped, Mendez-Laing on a good day was very effective, but he didn’t have enough of them and we swapped one reserve keeper for another- I don’t see how Osei-Tutu, Ojo, Wilson, Moore and youngsters breaking through like Harris and Bagan leaves us with a weaker squad.
    Tomlin's injury is the biggest difference.

    Hoilett and Nelson are playing significantly worse than they did last season as well.

  9. #259

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Lee Tomlin.
    The difference between 5th and 14th last season nqat

  10. #260

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    That is the funniest post that I have read in ages! Lol

    We all have opinions which is why football is such a great sport but this is hilarious.
    I really do enjoy his input on team matters i find myself agreeing quite a lot with him.

  11. #261

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    A f*cking what attitude?
    The thing is, he is right!

  12. #262

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Yes. Mediocre teams don't win 4 games on the bounce, including two tough away games.
    Where are we in the league again?

    Can you remind me again?

  13. #263

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Where are we in the league again?

    Can you remind me again?
    10th? Since when was top half mediocre?

  14. #264

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I don’t get how the squad was ripped up as you put it. We’ve got the same keeper, same centre backs and left back, same midfielders, only one winger has left and Tomlin is injured. Harris is unlucky with what has happened at right back, but he’s the one who left us with just one specialist in that position- right back apart, I think the squad is stronger than the one which finished fifth last season.
    Of course it is.

    Anyone that thinks that Wilson and Moore at the very least wouldn’t have walked into last season’s starting XI either needs to have a serious word with themselves or is just trying to be provocative.

  15. #265

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    10th? Since when was top half mediocre?
    How is 10th NOT mediocre? A whole ONE point and 2 places above being exactly average.

    ‘mediocre - of only average quality; not very good.‘

    I defy anyone who has watched more than one game this season not to agree with the above definition. And I’m being charitable.

  16. #266

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    The thing is, he is right!
    You need to read that line again, the man is making up words!!!! Loses a hell of a lot of credibility.

  17. #267

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    You need to read that line again, the man is making up words!!!! Loses a hell of a lot of credibility.
    Not sure what I meant, was doing something else at the time. Meant to put ballsy. The sentiment remains.

    Harris is changing his tune as the season progresses.

    Meanwhile others are saying that a 10th place finish after adding more quality to the team that finished 5th is progress.

  18. #268

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    How is 10th NOT mediocre? A whole ONE point and 2 places above being exactly average.

    ‘mediocre - of only average quality; not very good.‘

    I defy anyone who has watched more than one game this season not to agree with the above definition. And I’m being charitable.
    Top half of the Championship is not mediocre you clown

    We're 4 points off the playoffs and have won 5 of our last 7 games and we're mediocre? Bloody hell.

    Out of interest, what's your bar for a good season?

  19. #269

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Top half of the Championship is not mediocre you clown

    We're 4 points off the playoffs and have won 5 of our last 7 games and we're mediocre? Bloody hell.

    Out of interest, what's your bar for a good season?
    He had a paddy because we couldnt beat Bournemouth. He’s more deluded than Lewj the Jack.

  20. #270

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Not sure what I meant, was doing something else at the time. Meant to put ballsy. The sentiment remains.

    Harris is changing his tune as the season progresses.

    Meanwhile others are saying that a 10th place finish after adding more quality to the team that finished 5th is progress.
    Changing his tune

    His team were just well beaten by the best team in the division what do you want him to say?

    At least he didn’t blame everyone but himself like Warnock would have. Warnock would have been making a big deal out of Beundia not getting booked even though the boy ran the show today.

    In fact Warnock would have been waxing lyrical about them before kick off. At least Harris waited until after the game before holding has hands up to them being the better team.

  21. #271

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    He had a paddy because we couldnt beat Bournemouth. He’s more deluded than Lewj the Jack.
    Jack now

    Just because I don't think that a team that finished 5th should be languishing in mid table.

    I tell you what, I will say what I mean and he clear in that Harris is not making progress and is actually going backwards. The board want play offs and ultimately promotion. You've backtracked so much that you are now saying that 10th place is progress.

    What will it be next week? Any place between 5th and 24th? Harris is the man but might be a stepping stone but might also fail? Talk about confused.

  22. #272

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    You also seem to talk about the squad like the players he has at his disposal just happened to Harris and he had no input. If he wanted to keep a lot of those players I am sure he could have. You live and die by your choices in the management game and if we are woefully short in some areas because of players released then sorry but some of the blame for that has to rest with Harris. He said that he was happy with his squad.

    Other teams make signings and have injuries too. It is part of football. It isn't something that is exclusive to the City squad.

  23. #273

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I would suggest that Harris has focused on bringing in players who are younger and better on the ball and removing players who are older or less skilled from the squad. At the same time, we made the play-offs last year and competing for them again this year. We have a lot of players to replace this summer but if that trend continues then Harris has progressed the club.

    Has he done enough? Is he the manager to replace the base of our midfield with three of the four currently departing at end of 2022? Let's aim to review at the end of the year based on a full seasons evidence rather than just after we've lost to the best side in the league.
    Another sensible poster

  24. #274

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    You also seem to talk about the squad like the players he has at his disposal just happened to Harris and he had no input. If he wanted to keep a lot of those players I am sure he could have. You live and die by your choices in the management game and if we are woefully short in some areas because of players released then sorry but some of the blame for that has to rest with Harris. He said that he was happy with his squad.

    Other teams make signings and have injuries too. It is part of football. It isn't something that is exclusive to the City squad.
    Youre changing your tune now. Talking about me back tracking. You Said the transfer committee are useless but now it’s Harris who’s put the squad together. Make your mind up Linus.

  25. #275

    Re: FT:NORWICH CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Jack now

    Just because I don't think that a team that finished 5th should be languishing in mid table.

    I tell you what, I will say what I mean and he clear in that Harris is not making progress and is actually going backwards. The board want play offs and ultimately promotion. You've backtracked so much that you are now saying that 10th place is progress.

    What will it be next week? Any place between 5th and 24th? Harris is the man but might be a stepping stone but might also fail? Talk about confused.
    Where have I said that they would get promoted or even 5th? So how am I back tracking exactly?

    Go on I’ll wait for you to find the posts and make me look silly.

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