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    Helens Law

    Helen's Law: Killers could still be freed despite new law https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-55419384
    What an absolute joke. What a kick in the teeth for these victims families.

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    Re: Helens Law

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Helen's Law: Killers could still be freed despite new law https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-55419384
    What an absolute joke. What a kick in the teeth for these victims families.
    But there are two sides to this. Look at the risk to the killer's mental health having to stay in prison for years and years.

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    Build super prisons on the many islands off the coast's of Britain, for the real scum of this world,
    Your paedophiles,
    Murderers,
    Rapists,
    Terrorists
    No visits, no contact with the outside world, no tv's, no Internet etc etc
    Make them work for their keep in purpose built factories inside the prisons 12 hours a day.
    Properly manned with the right amount of armed guards with the power to shoot when needed. They would be self sufficient prisons and would not cost the honest working people a penny to keep these evil vile scum!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But there are two sides to this. Look at the risk to the killer's mental health having to stay in prison for years and years.
    The killer is not the victim.
    Sod him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Build super prisons on the many islands off the coast's of Britain, for the real scum of this world,
    Your paedophiles,
    Murderers,
    Rapists,
    Terrorists
    No visits, no contact with the outside world, no tv's, no Internet etc etc
    Make them work for their keep in purpose built factories inside the prisons 12 hours a day.
    Properly manned with the right amount of armed guards with the power to shoot when needed. They would be self sufficient prisons and would not cost the honest working people a penny to keep these evil vile scum!!!!!!!!!
    Don't forget the not wearing of the masks we'll send them cnuts there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But there are two sides to this. Look at the risk to the killer's mental health having to stay in prison for years and years.
    WTF?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Build super prisons on the many islands off the coast's of Britain, for the real scum of this world,
    Your paedophiles,
    Murderers,
    Rapists,
    Terrorists
    No visits, no contact with the outside world, no tv's, no Internet etc etc
    Make them work for their keep in purpose built factories inside the prisons 12 hours a day.
    Properly manned with the right amount of armed guards with the power to shoot when needed. They would be self sufficient prisons and would not cost the honest working people a penny to keep these evil vile scum!!!!!!!!!
    No we should be learning from the Norwegian prisions, look at their re-offending rates compared to the UK prison system.
    Brutal super prisons only make things worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    WTF?!?!
    He’s joking you donut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    No we should be learning from the Norwegian prisions, look at their re-offending rates compared to the UK prison system.
    Brutal super prisons only make things worse.
    Exactly look at the state of the prison system in the US. In private hands makes them even worse.

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    Would you change your mind if someone close to you was abused or murdered?
    And they gave him or her a nice easy time in prison with early release for good behaviour!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Would you change your mind if someone close to you was abused or murdered?
    And they gave him or her a nice easy time in prison with early release for good behaviour!!!!!!
    But there is a reason they don't put family members on the jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Would you change your mind if someone close to you was abused or murdered?
    And they gave him or her a nice easy time in prison with early release for good behaviour!!!!!!
    Well the ones who get released have to be someone's neighbour, so it's better to have a penal system that reforms people and reduces crime.

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    Yeah right that really works lol
    Let's hope they never move in next to you.
    Last edited by Its been emotional; 23-12-20 at 10:47. Reason: Add more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Yeah right that really works lol
    Let's hope they never move in next to you.
    They have to live next door to someone. That being the case, far better that they've been reformed, and taught how to live in society and given skills to turn their life around than been brutalized and locked up with other criminals.

    People like to compare criminals to animals, so let's do that.

    Say there are 2 dogs, they both bite someone. One is locked up with a dozen more vicious dogs, with no contact with the outside world for a year.
    The other is trained how to interact with people and they spend a year trying to correct the dog's bad behaviour.
    Which would you want to be bought by the bloke next door?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Yeah right that really works lol
    Let's hope they never move in next to you.
    It’s more that most people who go to prison aren’t murderers or peadophiles and will be released so you want them to be reformed. And it works well in countries that has humane prisons.

    I agree very violent criminals shouldn’t be released but most people in prisons aren’t.

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    My list was the most vile evil criminals???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    They have to live next door to someone. That being the case, far better that they've been reformed, and taught how to live in society and given skills to turn their life around than been brutalized and locked up with other criminals.

    People like to compare criminals to animals, so let's do that.

    Say there are 2 dogs, they both bite someone. One is locked up with a dozen more vicious dogs, with no contact with the outside world for a year.
    The other is trained how to interact with people and they spend a year trying to correct the dog's bad behaviour.
    Which would you want to be bought by the bloke next door?
    So you are saying that you would be happy having a convicted paedophile move in next door to you, with your young children or grandchildren interacting with them?

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    we are way to soft

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    Failure to co-operate and reveal such information is "frowned upon" by the board and could see a prisoner having requests for parole denied in the first instance, Mr Jones said.
    However, he added: "What it cannot do is act as a complete block on your release.
    "Ultimately if someone is no longer a risk, we must release them."
    Without knowing more about the assessment of risk and what significance is given to withholding information within that assessment it's very difficult to comment. I presume the significance can vary case by case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    So you are saying that you would be happy having a convicted paedophile move in next door to you, with your young children or grandchildren interacting with them?
    I think we can guess the answer to that one

    That is the question that should be posed to these legal people calling the shots.
    Whatever their response, we all know of course it would never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    I think we can guess the answer to that one

    That is the question that should be posed to these legal people calling the shots.
    Whatever their response, we all know of course it would never happen.
    Everyone who gets released from prison is going to live next door to someone, would you rather they were coming out of a system that had tried to integrate them into society, or a system that had brutalised them?

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    Rjk you have not answered the question just swerved it.......
    Would you be happy having a convicted paedophile move in next door to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Everyone who gets released from prison is going to live next door to someone, would you rather they were coming out of a system that had tried to integrate them into society, or a system that had brutalised them?
    Perhaps you should respond to "It's been emotional" s direct question not me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Rjk you have not answered the question just swerved it.......
    Would you be happy having a convicted paedophile move in next door to you?
    You didn't answer my question either.

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    So you wouldn't like it then?
    Last edited by Its been emotional; 23-12-20 at 12:06. Reason: Spelling

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