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See Boris strutted is stuff with Ursula and brought us back a deal today, which many said was impossible.
who said it was impossible?
"A deal". Not "a good deal". After 4 and half years. Nice work Boris.Originally Posted by Whisperer
As most informed people have been saying since day 1 he had no choice but to agree a deal. And as most informed people have been saying since day 1 it no doubt involves many messy compromises that leave absolutely no one better off. So, yeah, well done Boris.
Let's see how good a deal this is when we get to see the details.
All I've picked up so far is that -
the professional qualifications of Barristers (or did he say Baristas?) are still recognised across the EU, but others aren't.
Students aren't free to study in the EU anymore
British police wont have open access to European police databases and vice versa, so the sharing of intelligence wont be as straightforward as before
What the oven ready deal
He's gotten a deal. Everyone thought he could get 'a' deal - Teresa May was close to a deal. The question is if he got a good deal. Which remains to be seen.
Boris Johnson had little, if anything of significance, to do with the Brexit deal. He clearly doesnt understand that which has been negotiated. "The biggest imposition of red tape in 50 years" Wales, Scotland and Northetn Ireland will see little, if any, of the control which has been taken back.
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About 48% of the population - wanting to extend extend and extend again.
Both sides wanted a deal that would allow them to walk away saying they had secured the things important to them even if that was to be heavily compromised. We now get to wait for the details to see where the compromises have come and what it means for us, but if you're a business trying to implement any changes needed you've now got just 3 working days to manage it all and it seems the EU is much further ahead in its preparation.
Boris' role now is to convince people any fallout is responsibility of covid rather than Brexit before then falling on his sword and allowing the next contender to say any negative outcome was Boris rather than the party. It's highly likely both that anyone with enough time on their hand will be able to see through that and that group will be a minority.
It was never gonna be a perfect deal but a deals a deal.🙃
Just making stuff up now
Unless you live/work in Gibraltar.
That'll piss off some of the 52% who didn't want a deal, despite never being sold no deal at the time of the referendum.
Sadly, there was never going to be a deal that meant the UK would be economically better off outside the EU. There was never going to be a deal that meant the UK would be economically better off outside the customs union and single market.
But we have a deal. A deal that is worth almost piss all. It's fractionally better for the UK than no deal, but significantly worse than a deal that would have kept us closer to Europe.
I notice a video is being shared around of Jim Davidson saying how we don't need a deal, that things are shit enough that they can't get shitter. I find it scary that people value the opinion of a racist, drunken, failed far-right comedian over professors and doctors of economics, trade etc. Shows how far down the shitter the country has slid.
There will be a lot of disappointed people on here.
some people on here make me smile.
so many complaining that he wanted a 'no deal' situation and now he has a deal they're still not satisfied, slagging it off before anyone even knows the details.
Mind even Kier Stammer did, calling it a thin deal an hour after it was announced when no one had even read it. All these people so clever perhaps they should have been the negotiators.
But despite someone on here saying it took 41/2 years to get a bad deal, as stated he can't know that because he doesn't know what the deal is and it didn't take 4 1/2 years it took 11 months. It's the biggest free trade deal ever negotiated (c£660 Billion). The deal with Canada took 5 years of constant negotiations and that's about average.
But I think what it really is is the people who think we shouldn't have left in the first place and cannot accept that they lost. It might be a bad deal but at least lets know the details before you slag it off, which you will anyway because Boris did it.
The remain crystal ball is so accurate and the leave voters are full of racists and bigots. No wonder Trump, Farage and Davidson are popular.
Any deal with free trade has to be better than no deal.
We had free trade when we were in though.
Lets see how better or worse off we are in the next few years.
You've all lost. Especially if you live in Wales.
If Boris has strutted his stuff and Von Layen has used a bit of savvy and played to her strengths (being female) and his weaknesses, (he's like a dog with two dicks) the deal will have included giving the EU the Channel Islands.
Cant say ive seen any no deal favouring brexit loons on this board. Saying that I give the politics board a swerve.
Any free trade agreement has to be be better than crashing out with no deal.
We will probably be a bit worse off initially, but with new trade agreements we can now have with other nations as an independent country there is no reason why over a few years we can't cancel that out and go further.
I haven't lost anything.
You been up the valley's in the last 30 years?
I very much doubt the poorer areas of the Uk will be better off.
Time will tell. Lets hope your right.
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