Looks like they are signing him on loan. Would he have come back to us? I have a feeling in the back of my mind that he didn't leave us on great terms???
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Looks like they are signing him on loan. Would he have come back to us? I have a feeling in the back of my mind that he didn't leave us on great terms???
He'd come back, he's a City fan. He's quite vocal about it on Instagram but I bet he's on good money at Schalke (they signed him for 12.5m after all!) and we haven't got any money! Harris said we brought in Wilson over another right back as the budget was too tight, so unless we manage to shift Murphy/Hoilett I think it's a non starter unfortunately. I'd love him back, he's got raw pace which we lack.Originally Posted by PhyllisStant
But we signed Will Vaulks. This club is a mess.
In June 2019.
Did we have different owners then?
Sorry, I've got absolutely no idea what you were driving at when you brought Will Vaulks into the equation. I shouldn't have bothered replying.
Correct.
There was nothing wrong with the Will Vaulks signing. It was a punt at a low cost
£2.5m is certainly not low cost.
It was at the time for a player that Rotherham relied on. We paid more for Pack where Vaulks had more long term potential.
Transfer fees have plummeted because of COVID
£2.5m for Vaulks is dreadful business. He tries hard but is so limited. He's 27 and can't pass. Spending more on Pack is also bad business, although I thought Pack cost 750k.
He is a half decent player he's typical of other signings , where they were doing a half decent job at a lower Championship club , or was their player of the season, so we take a punt , bit like Cunningham, Nelson, Whyte, Moore, Pack all reported decent performers at thier
clubs .
We signed Harry Wilson in a similair deal too which on paper is a better signing than Mattondo
it'll be good for him to get some game time
I watch a fair bit of Bundesliga and he hasn't pulled up trees. Man City must have been laughing all the way to the bank at £12m.
He is probably one of Schalke's highest earners but the fact they're considering loaning him out shows where he is at with them even in their predicament at the moment (adrift at the bottom and in line for record games without a win in Bundesliga).
We have other wingers with bags of pace that rarely produce the goods. Matondo is no different. Has pace to burn but the rest of his game isn't up to par even given the slim pickings we have on the wings currently.
I’ve seen nothing to suggest that he’s going to be anything more than Championship standard at best
Before I get shot down here I have just checked his stats.
He has made 32 appearances for Schalke and has a total of 2 goals and 0 assists.
He seems to get in great positions with his pace but always ends up with the wrong option being taken. Think a very expensive Josh Low.
Well, if this is true, I'm glad he's coming to the Championship. I hope he gets plenty of game time. And by May we should know what kind of player he is.
I'm fairly certain of the kind of player he is. One that hardly scores and virtually never creates scoring chances for others.
I am glad it is Stoke rather than us is all I will add.
He's 20 and Schalke are the worst side in recent history. It's way too early to judge.
yes precisely.
he's only 20, think of players like adama Traore at that age, pace and dribbling but nothing else. some time in the championship should be good for him
coincidentally just seen this on twitter - schalke are terrible aren't they.20210104_194835.jpg
He's just 20 years old. For my money, judging based on Wales games, his last game had seen him step up quite a bit when he was playing against players of a similar age but still development needed. The right club at Championship level is a good stepping stone.
When I say you don't have the patience to see a change in playing style at the club, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about.
I've watched him for three seasons at Schalke.
I have very little faith in him suddenly getting that aspect of the game. Do you think Man City, Schalke and Wales have not tried to coach this into his game?
As for the playing style, I see very little. Harris has always played direct at Millwall and has in his time here. He has been here a year plus and still plays direct. Harris has moved only slightly from his direct style and is so uncomfortable with it he always reverts to type. That will not change as with any change will be a period of discomfort.
They are totally separate issues but I have more faith in Matondo making the grade than Harris changing something that he has always done. At least Matondo knows, or should know, what he has to do and is fully focused on doing it.
What I would ask is what faith you have in Stoke coaches achieving with Matondo that Man City, Schalke and Wales coaches have so far failed to achieve?
From Harry Wilson is nothing other than set pieces to this ffs
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