Vaccine rollout in wales

[lisvaneblue]

Christ your talking of Drakeford & Co., do you expect miracles? We could all be dead by May and he’d still be saying it’s not a sprint.

BBC News Wales website....Wales has given just 50,000 doses since 8 December out of the 270,000 doses it has received. At last some honesty from them. Shame on Drakeford and Gething for trying to hide this from us for so long

[goats]

BBC News Wales website....Wales has given just 50,000 doses since 8 December out of the 270,000 doses it has received. At last some honesty from them. Shame on Drakeford and Gething for trying to hide this from us for so long

Incredible if true and time to step aside.....

[Vindec]

The Pfizer jab is a bit quirky regarding distribution but should not be a problem. In Wales -70c storage means the vaccine is held in two sites, I know not where. From there the vaccine can be moved around for up to 5 days at fridge temperature. It comes as a frozen powder a vial containing five doses. Once the powder has thawed it needs to diluted. So far nothing too difficult. Once diluted the 5 dose vial must be used within 6 hours. With dilution it must not be vigourously agitated, but must gently rotated to get the powder dissolved. Once in liquid form it cannot be transported by a motor vehicle ( because the transport might cause agitation)....so in effect it should be diluted at the place it is going to be used, like say a nursing/ care home.
In practice a team should be able to move into a nursing home/ village hall etc. and get going. With a bit of forward planning it should not be a problem.

Thanks for that. Bang goes my theory. That's the last time I shall look for reasons to defend Drakeford and Co.

[LeningradCowboy]

Briefly popping back in with a more cheerful thought. If we've vaccinated a million 80+ year olds, 60% of whom would be infected in an unmitigated epidemic, if the first jab gives 80% protection, given an IFR of 10% in that age group we've just saved 48,000 lives.

Moar plz.

— Oliver Johnson (@BristOliver) January 10, 2021

Drakeford is a fool for saying "this is not a sprint".

[Delbert]

Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board (Bridgend, RCT, Merthyr) have published their vaccination statistics to 7th January and the planned delivery of vaccine for next week https://cwmtafmorgannwg.wales/wp-con...e-08-01-21.pdf

[The Bloop]

BBC News Wales website....Wales has given just 50,000 doses since 8 December out of the 270,000 doses it has received. At last some honesty from them. Shame on Drakeford and Gething for trying to hide this from us for so long

Incredible if true and time to step aside.....

50k up to 3 January
Be interesting to see what the total is now that theyve been giving the Oxford vaccine this week. My other half had hers on Thursday at Cwmbran stadium and said it was really busy.

[the other bob wilson]

Up to 70,000 now and Vaughan Gething promising a "really significant step up" from now on;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55605111

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Up to 70,000 now and Vaughan Gething promising a "really significant step up" from now on;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55605111

So now on par or marginally ahead of Englands roll out?

[Vindec]

So now on par or marginally ahead of Englands roll out?

Slightly below England but near enough.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Slightly below England but near enough.

I thought England were at 2% and we were at 2.2% but may have heard incorrectly.

[tricks]

Really?

[olderblue]

They have no excuse for this , they knew they were having the vaccine delivered and should have been planning for that weeks ago
This lot couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, because they know they're going to keep their jobs anyway they have a complete contempt for the general public
I don't want to hear Drakeford or chippy answering that they won't get into that when asked a difficult question
We need answers as a right not because they don't fancy handling a straight question.
On the hole the Welsh Journos have given them a free ride and almost act in a sycophantic manner to the them, it was only the guy from WOL, who actually started pressing for answers last week

[The Bloop]

If it wasn't for us being compared to the other home nations, there wouldn't be so many complaints.

[Former Labour leader]

I think a lot of you have fallen for the machismo of Johnson and his acolytes. Promising a million of this and a million of that.
Just to remind you, so far the UK Government has just about fecked everything they have done during the coronavirus crisis and dont get me started on brexit.
I will be the first to call out Drakeford if he fecks up the vaccination roll out, but just because he is not making grand promises does not mean he is behind the curve. I will see what happens over next week or so before I jump on the Anti Welsh Government bandwagon.

[lisvaneblue]

I think a lot of you have fallen for the machismo of Johnson and his acolytes. Promising a million of this and a million of that.
Just to remind you, so far the UK Government has just about fecked everything they have done during the coronavirus crisis and dont get me started on brexit.
I will be the first to call out Drakeford if he fecks up the vaccination roll out, but just because he is not making grand promises does not mean he is behind the curve. I will see what happens over next week or so before I jump on the Anti Welsh Government bandwagon.

A close family member, a consultant at UHW, and a so called front line worker, is getting her first jab in a couple of weeks time!! And Wales is siting on 200,000 doses. Get real.

[jeepster]

A close family member, a consultant at UHW, and a so called front line worker, is getting her first jab in a couple of weeks time!! And Wales is siting on 200,000 doses. Get real.

My brother in law had his last week,and he is only a porter.get real

[lisvaneblue]

My brother in law had his last week,and he is only a porter.get real

Well she's still waiting. Glad your in law had his....it seems there's plenty to go around.

[Croesy Blue]

A close family member, a consultant at UHW, and a so called front line worker, is getting her first jab in a couple of weeks time!! And Wales is siting on 200,000 doses. Get real.

My cousin is an NHS worker at UHW and got hers yesterday, not front line either so seems strange there is such a wait.

[the other bob wilson]

I think a lot of you have fallen for the machismo of Johnson and his acolytes. Promising a million of this and a million of that.
Just to remind you, so far the UK Government has just about fecked everything they have done during the coronavirus crisis and dont get me started on brexit.
I will be the first to call out Drakeford if he fecks up the vaccination roll out, but just because he is not making grand promises does not mean he is behind the curve. I will see what happens over next week or so before I jump on the Anti Welsh Government bandwagon.

If Johnson and his mob live up to to their promises about getting the first four groups vaccinated by mid February, then they'll deserve credit for that, but, for me. it would be like scoring a goal when you're 5-0 down - the damage has been done as far as they're concerned so it's definitely not a case of falling for "machismo" for me.

However. just because I'm more aligned to Labour politically, that doesn't mean that the WAG are immune from criticism. The amount they were behind in the vaccination process wasn't huge, but it's early in the process and if it continued at the rate seen so far, the gap between Wales and the other three nations would become a very significant one quite quickly. Hopefully, there's been a degree of catching up going on in recent days, but that doesn't make Drakeford's "this is not a sprint" remark any less crass and misjudged.

[Vindec]

If Johnson and his mob live up to to their promises about getting the first four groups vaccinated by mid February, then they'll deserve credit for that, but, for me. it would be like scoring a goal when you're 5-0 down - the damage has been done as far as they're concerned so it's definitely not a case of falling for "machismo" for me.

However. just because I'm more aligned to Labour politically, that doesn't mean that the WAG are immune from criticism. The amount they were behind in the vaccination process wasn't huge, but it's early in the process and if it continued at the rate seen so far, the gap between Wales and the other three nations would become a very significant one quite quickly. Hopefully, there's been a degree of catching up going on in recent days, but that doesn't make Drakeford's "this is not a sprint" remark any less crass and misjudged.

Of course the Tories have made mistakes - massive ones on test and trace and PPE in particular. Other mistakes include confusing messaging, being slow to react and the lockdown arrangements which have been far too lax. The mortality and case figures are worrying and the UK record is statistically poor. Compliance with the rules has also been a major factor; apparently far too many people are putting their civil rights above all else.

However the government has done well in backing and securing the different vaccines ahead of many other countries. Why they set the February target to offer vaccines to the first 4 groups was plain daft given they are so reliant on the manufacturers delivering the vaccine as well as the government's history of over promising and under delivering.

[Hilts]

I think a lot of you have fallen for the machismo of Johnson and his acolytes. Promising a million of this and a million of that.
Just to remind you, so far the UK Government has just about fecked everything they have done during the coronavirus crisis and dont get me started on brexit.
I will be the first to call out Drakeford if he fecks up the vaccination roll out, but just because he is not making grand promises does not mean he is behind the curve. I will see what happens over next week or so before I jump on the Anti Welsh Government bandwagon.

I dont think people are falling for Johnson.

Him and his front bench are a complete disaster. In the worst period probably since WW2 we have the most useless government in memory. A bunch inept and completely out of their depth.

However the roll out in Wales is on the likes of Drakeford , Gething and co.

Hopefully they are up to it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Slightly below England but near enough.

Well thats crap , as England's is crap , but not as bad as the local branch of the Conservative party would have us believe 😉

[The Bloop]

Worth remembering aswell that Boris has not promised to vaccinate 15 million people (the over 70's) by mid-February - he has promised to invite them to be vaccinated by this date.
All he has promised to do is send out 15 million letters.

Remember last May and the Tory's promise to test 100k people a day - they got there by sending out thousands of tests in the post a couple of days before.

Spin spin and more spin.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Well we are facing unprecedented times

The local gp is contacting eligible groups

Could it be better and faster ? Of course , but the sheer size of this operation is massive

Wales is way behind. My Mum is having her’s on Friday but most elderly people haven’t heard anything yet.

By contrast, where I live, everyone’s parents that I know have already had theirs and are booked in for the second shot.

Wales looks to have truly messed this up in comparison to England.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Wales is way behind. My Mum is having her’s on Friday but most elderly people haven’t heard anything yet.

By contrast, where I live, everyone’s parents that I know have already had theirs and are booked in for the second shot.

Wales looks to have truly messed this up in comparison to England.

Well let's wait for the stats , I mean matt Hancock?

Fecking Tony Hancock