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Thread: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

  1. #181

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    An idea and a crazy one but playing Wilson in the number 10 role seems logical to me.

  2. #182

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Not just Tomlin. There's a lethargy about us, a lack of urgency. I don't think Tomlin would do much for us at the moment. Several times I saw Pack today holding onto the ball with absolutely no movement going on ahead of him. We talk of Pack slowing down our game but he often hasn't got an adventurous or forward pass worth trying.

    We don't inject enough pace into our attacks so we don't turn defenders. Why don't we start games on the front foot? We did when we went on our winning run.

    There's been talk of late about how patient fans would be if we changed our style and didn't get results. Change of style and way of playing or not, much of that was slow, ponderous shite, regardless of how much possession we had.
    Lots of stuff online from our games in the last promotion year [2017/18]. Yes, Warnock was manager, but it certainly wasn't 'Warnockball'. We were sharp, beating players in high positions, and putting defences under pressure. Compared to that side we look 50% slower, no intensity, no energy. Harris is a victim of inheriting a ponderous squad and some strange recruitment, but without a big target man we ain't going to trouble defences. Time for a clear out - players, manager, coaches, scouts [?], the lot. We may be relegated, but I think we're heading that way anyway in the next season or two..

  3. #183

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Donít understand all of the focus on the Glatzel, where is the scathing criticism of Wilson (is he too precious to be criticised?), Murphy, Ralls, Harris, Ojo, Hoilett etc. They left Glatzel out to dry.

    When Murphy got to the line, only Glatzel was in the box, no one made the effort to get in there.

    No one comes out of this with credit. Lethargy and one dimensional. Time for a change.
    There has to be a scapegoat and unfortunately Glatzel is that one. It seems that we donít play to any of his strengths, surely he has some, but being in a side that lacks any quality in the attacking half of the pitch any striker would look poor. I donít know what Warnock was looking for in a striker like him when he signed him. The mind boggles.

  4. #184

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    An idea and a crazy one but playing Wilson in the number 10 role seems logical to me.
    We've played him there several times this season and he hasn't done much.

  5. #185

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    We've played him there several times this season and he hasn't done much.
    If memory is correct last time was Birmingham and he scored one and got two assists.

  6. #186

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    If memory is correct last time was Birmingham and he scored one and got two assists.
    He scored after moving back out to the wing when we brought on Mark Harris for Gavin Whyte.

  7. #187

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    He would have gone last weekend if we were planning to change the manager in January.
    I agree, he's here until the end of the season at least. He'll be gone once the seasons I sincerely hope, and we are safe from relegation. The Three Stooges will then cast their net near and close for another manager. Let's just hope it's not Pulis or even Joey Barton

  8. #188

    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    I'm amazed that playing Joe Ralls as a number 10 isn't working. It's been so successful in the past.



    He didn't play as a #10 today. We played 4141 for the first 65 mins: Ralls at clm and Pack between the midfield and defence. From then to the end of the game Wilson played at #10.

    StT.<><

  9. #189

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The focus is on Glatzel, not his fault I hasten to add, because of what he cost. To say Murphy doesnít get criticised suggests that you donít read this board much, heís been regularly slaughtered, Ojo has his own personal executioner, Ralls gets his fair share of pelters as well. Wilson has been getting in more and more recently as well. Hoilett is perhaps giving a little breathing space due to the fact he cost bugger all and his contribution over the seasons far outweighs any negatives, it was he with a snapshot that nearly brought us level today after coming on. Mark Harris surely doesnít deserve criticism after being chucked in the deep end in a struggling side. Glatzel isnít up to it at this level, perhaps itís not that he doesnít get stuck in, doesnít show enthusiasm, doesnít create anything individually etc itís the fact he canít do these things because he isnít good enough. Weíve seen enough of him, heís not up to it.
    I was referring specifically to the criticism Glatzel was getting after this match. In my opinion he was hung out to dry as he had no support or feed from those around him, Ralls, Murphy, Wilson all anonymous. There was one instance when Murphy broke away, got to the bye line, crossed the ball , behind Glatzel, and there wasnít another City player in or approaching the box, yet Forest managed to get 6 or 7 back, that sums this team up for me. The lack of incisiveness is shocking. There was also a pass from Pack in between the Forest lines, which was a great opportunity to attack, instead of carrying it forward it went sideways then back, wasting a great opportunity. Oh for a Jason Koumas!

  10. #190

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    I was referring specifically to the criticism Glatzel was getting after this match. In my opinion he was hung out to dry as he had no support or feed from those around him, Ralls, Murphy, Wilson all anonymous. There was one instance when Murphy broke away, got to the bye line, crossed the ball , behind Glatzel, and there wasn’t another City player in or approaching the box, yet Forest managed to get 6 or 7 back, that sums this team up for me. The lack of incisiveness is shocking. There was also a pass from Pack in between the Forest lines, which was a great opportunity to attack, instead of carrying it forward it went sideways then back, wasting a great opportunity. Oh for a Jason Koumas!
    Glatzet would be a lot better with the ball played in front of him.

  11. #191

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Glatzet would be a lot better with the ball played in front of him.
    Strikers who cost as much as him should have a more all round game and be adaptable to balls played in front of them, behind them, across the box on the deck, across the box in the air, chances that they make themselves, chances that occur through defenders’ errors etc. He shows none of these attributes on a regular basis, unfortunately he’s a dud, no power, no strength, little awareness, lacking in a vital part of a striker’s make up which is anticipation. Fair play to his agent for getting his former club such a fee and his client a wage to match. I’ve tried to like him and he’s been given many opportunities to show his worth, so much more than the likes of Cornelius, Bogle and Guerra. We knock our midfield but it must be disheartening for them having such a ‘no show’ up front, he’s a centre back’s dream opponent, for a big bloke his aggression is nil.

  12. #192

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Strikers who cost as much as him should have a more all round game and be adaptable to balls played in front of them, behind them, across the box on the deck, across the box in the air, chances that they make themselves, chances that occur through defenders’ errors etc. He shows none of these attributes on a regular basis, unfortunately he’s a dud, no power, no strength, little awareness, lacking in a vital part of a striker’s make up which is anticipation. Fair play to his agent for getting his former club such a fee and his client a wage to match. I’ve tried to like him and he’s been given many opportunities to show his worth, so much more than the likes of Cornelius, Bogle and Guerra. We knock our midfield but it must be disheartening for them having such a ‘no show’ up front, he’s a centre back’s dream opponent, for a big bloke his aggression is nil.
    What, we have a midfield.Must be news to the team.

  13. #193

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    What, we have a midfield.Must be news to the team.
    One of the reasons we need strikers who are capable of creating the odd chance themselves, strikers who work their bollocks off, strikers who bully defenders, strikers who battle, Glatzel doesn’t , he can’t hold the ball up, he can’t defend from the front, he’s powder puff. Do you think that he’s good enough?

  14. #194

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Swansea away next round then Man City (probably) at home if we managed to dispose of them.

    Hands up who still fancied a cup run

  15. #195

    Re: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    Swansea away next round then Man City (probably) at home if we managed to dispose of them.

    Hands up who still fancied a cup run
    Nah, you're alright.

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