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    How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Info was available for Monday and Tuesday, maybe it's me but I can't see it anywhere today ?

    Anyone, help with a link?

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    UK data, which can be broken down to nation level, here:

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ort_date_daily

    Data for Cardiff and the Vale here:

    https://cavuhb.nhs.wales/covid-19/ca...ion-programme/

    1443 vaccinations yesterday. Interesting to note how few vaccinations have been given to the high risk over-80s group - 265 since the vaccination programme began on 8th December (average 7 per day). Contrast this with England where over 40% of over-80s have been vaccinated. Evidently Wales has prioritised frontline health and social care workers ahead of the over-80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peajay View Post
    Info was available for Monday and Tuesday, maybe it's me but I can't see it anywhere today ?

    Anyone, help with a link?
    10,142

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...eaths-19615976

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    UK data, which can be broken down to nation level, here:

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ort_date_daily

    Data for Cardiff and the Vale here:

    https://cavuhb.nhs.wales/covid-19/ca...ion-programme/

    1443 vaccinations yesterday. Interesting to note how few vaccinations have been given to the high risk over-80s group - 265 since the vaccination programme began on 8th December (average 7 per day). Contrast this with England where over 40% of over-80s have been vaccinated. Evidently Wales has prioritised frontline health and social care workers ahead of the over-80s.
    I think frontline workers, those in healthcare, teachers, undertakers should get first shout. Any reduction in those numbers has knock on effects elsewhere. Then get vunerable workers vaccinated. Then do the elderly. Without being unkind, they can keep isolating and getting shopping delivered etc.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think frontline workers, those in healthcare, teachers, undertakers should get first shout. Any reduction in those numbers has knock on effects elsewhere. Then get vunerable workers vaccinated. Then do the elderly. Without being unkind, they can keep isolating and getting shopping delivered etc.
    The elderly are much more likely to be severely ill and require treatment in hospital. We won't have a functioning NHS until most of them are vaccinated (or dead).

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think frontline workers, those in healthcare, teachers, undertakers should get first shout. Any reduction in those numbers has knock on effects elsewhere. Then get vunerable workers vaccinated. Then do the elderly. Without being unkind, they can keep isolating and getting shopping delivered etc.
    I think you could argue it both ways, immunise those at a far higher risk of death or immunise those who care for them but who are at a far lower risk of death.

    Either way I do think the communications in Wales about the vaccination strategy have been extremely poor. Expectations have been high since the first vaccinations were delivered in early December but it is evident from these figures that, in Cardiff and the Vale at least, there was never any intention to mass vaccinate the over-80s to date.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    UK data, which can be broken down to nation level, here:

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ort_date_daily

    Data for Cardiff and the Vale here:

    https://cavuhb.nhs.wales/covid-19/ca...ion-programme/

    1443 vaccinations yesterday. Interesting to note how few vaccinations have been given to the high risk over-80s group - 265 since the vaccination programme began on 8th December (average 7 per day). Contrast this with England where over 40% of over-80s have been vaccinated. Evidently Wales has prioritised frontline health and social care workers ahead of the over-80s.
    I mentioned elsewhere that my 80 yo brother in Cheshire has already had both jabs and today his 73 yo sister in law had hers. Neither have medical conditions and they seem to be steaming through them up there.

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    This is a page of a letter that came through the post today (dated 11/01/21) and is the priority list from Cardiff Council and Cardiff & Vale University Health Board. On this page it also lists the groups who represent about 99% of preventable deaths from Covid.

    As a side issue I just wanted to highlight that for those of us who are shielding and extremely vulnerable (I'm in list 4) Covid isn't the only problem we've faced for nearly a year e.g. no face-to-face consultations with Neurologists, which means no examinations, which means no treatments. MRIs being missed (brain and spine which take up to 90 minutes) and Radiologists and specialist nurses being seconded to Covid wards, ICUs or off sick.

    Some vital and specialist blood tests (which have to be sent to France - oh the irony) for central nervous system viruses have been missed (which means no chance of survival, they're that lethal). Neurologists and other specialist staff relocating back to mainland Europe because of Brexit which means patient loads are being shared with the remaining over-worked team members.

    We've created a perfect storm. Years of austerity i.e. underfunding, Brexit and ignoring/not preparing for an inevitable Pandemic. I date this one back to 2010 and the Con/LD coalition slashing vital medical and social services as well creating problems with recruiting specialist staff (it won't matter if you have all the Private Health insurance you could want if there isn't a specialist consultant to be referred to - and the training is over 10 years).

    Sorry, hard to be cool about this stuff.

    Anyway, I hope the attached clears things up and helps.

    Vaccine Priority List.jpg

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Our doctors surgery at Bishops Road, Whitchurch were jabbing the 80+s yesterday

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    UK data, which can be broken down to nation level, here:

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ort_date_daily

    Data for Cardiff and the Vale here:

    https://cavuhb.nhs.wales/covid-19/ca...ion-programme/

    1443 vaccinations yesterday. Interesting to note how few vaccinations have been given to the high risk over-80s group - 265 since the vaccination programme began on 8th December (average 7 per day). Contrast this with England where over 40% of over-80s have been vaccinated. Evidently Wales has prioritised frontline health and social care workers ahead of the over-80s.
    Look like a very sensible approach by Cardiff and Vale, keeping mass vaccination centres for front line workers, and GPs for elderly, plus a mobile unit for care homes

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think frontline workers, those in healthcare, teachers, undertakers should get first shout. Any reduction in those numbers has knock on effects elsewhere. Then get vunerable workers vaccinated. Then do the elderly. Without being unkind, they can keep isolating and getting shopping delivered etc.
    A mate of mine who is a physio at a hospital was re deployed to a covid ward and had his jab last week, he was amazed that office staff who have no contact with patients, had already had it. Also, that it was nowhere near the chaos he’d been led to believe it was in the media....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Look like a very sensible approach by Cardiff and Vale, keeping mass vaccination centres for front line workers, and GPs for elderly, plus a mobile unit for care homes
    I agree, as much as I want my 88 year old mum done, she’s going nowhere like last 9 months so can wait until frontline are done, teachers too in my opinion.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    I agree, as much as I want my 88 year old mum done, she’s going nowhere like last 9 months so can wait until frontline are done, teachers too in my opinion.
    They are not changing the priority list, just different venues for different groups. Makes sense as elderly better done at their usual GP surgery rather than queue at mass vaccination centre.

    Mention of teachers and for that matter many other key worker groups. I disagree that they should take priority. The NHS is clogged up with elderly and we know it hits them hardest. Until they are vaccinated the pressure on the NHS will remain, and normality will be delayed.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think frontline workers, those in healthcare, teachers, undertakers should get first shout. Any reduction in those numbers has knock on effects elsewhere. Then get vunerable workers vaccinated. Then do the elderly. Without being unkind, they can keep isolating and getting shopping delivered etc.
    Keep them isolated .
    My mum is in hospital , broke her hip the day after xmas.
    I asked if they would be giving the elderly ladies in the ward the vaccine.
    No plans , Welsh government had decided not to at the moment . And I understand they have to prioritise.
    Not sure how many over 80,s there are in hospital right now but I wouldn't imagine extending the jab to them would have been a huge task .
    The nurses I asked agreed .

    They removed a lady from my mothers ward yesterday with covid 19 .
    So isolating and getting her shopping delivered ?

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    They are not changing the priority list, just different venues for different groups. Makes sense as elderly better done at their usual GP surgery rather than queue at mass vaccination centre.

    Mention of teachers and for that matter many other key worker groups. I disagree that they should take priority. The NHS is clogged up with elderly and we know it hits them hardest. Until they are vaccinated the pressure on the NHS will remain, and normality will be delayed.
    Average age in icu currently is 57 apparently, I wonder what the average age of those dying from covid is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Average age in icu currently is 57 apparently, I wonder what the average age of those dying from covid is?
    PHW data shows about 75% deaths 70 years or older

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    Had a letter this morning, giving a list of categories in order of vaccination.

    I reckon with Duckford still in charge, they’ll have to dig me and the Mrs up for ours

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Had a letter this morning, giving a list of categories in order of vaccination.

    I reckon with Duckford still in charge, they’ll have to dig me and the Mrs up for ours
    Cardiff GP surgery’s starting this week I believe, Whitchurch and Radyr anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Cardiff GP surgery’s starting this week I believe, Whitchurch and Radyr anyway

    My Father in law, booked into Thornhill Surgery next Monday, he’s 96

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    All 60 GP practices in Cardiff and vale will have vaccines and training by the end of this week, we will start to see it really accelerating from now.
    Think they are aiming for everyone over 70 to be done by mid feb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    All 60 GP practices in Cardiff and vale will have vaccines and training by the end of this week, we will start to see it really accelerating from now.
    Think they are aiming for everyone over 70 to be done by mid feb
    That totals about 750k people. They need to average about 20k a day to get to their target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    That totals about 750k people. They need to average about 20k a day to get to their target.
    Just over half of that today - around 11,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    That totals about 750k people. They need to average about 20k a day to get to their target.
    there aren't 750k people in Cardiff and vale over the age of 70

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    That totals about 750k people. They need to average about 20k a day to get to their target.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    there aren't 750k people in Cardiff and vale over the age of 70
    Across Wales there are 750k people in the top 4 priority groups for receiving the vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Across Wales there are 750k people in the top 4 priority groups for receiving the vaccine.
    There's probably around 75k people over 70 in cardiff and vale health board area, which would require each of their GP practices immunizing 60 people a day (mon-fri) until the middle of february.
    that doesn't seem unreasonable, thats a vaccine every 8 minutes or so.

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    According to the letter we received, these are the numbers in Wales:---------


    1) Older adults resident in a care home and care home workers (40,000)

    2) Those 80 years of age and over (174,000)

    3) health and social care workers (152,000)

    4) Those aged 75-79 (127,ooo)

    5) Those aged 70-74 (253,000)

    6) Those aged 65-69 (166,000)

    7) Moderate-risk adults under 65 (338,000)

    8) Those aged 60-64 (126,000)

    9) Those aged 55-59 (151,ooo)

    10) those aged 50-54 (163,000)

    11) Rest (1,092, 000)

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    There's probably around 75k people over 70 in cardiff and vale health board area, which would require each of their GP practices immunizing 60 people a day (mon-fri) until the middle of february.
    that doesn't seem unreasonable, thats a vaccine every 8 minutes or so.
    When I had my flu jab at my GPs surgery the nurse told me she had a fairly easy afternoon with just 40 to do. So 60 in a day seems reasonable.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    When I had my flu jab at my GPs surgery the nurse told me she had a fairly easy afternoon with just 40 to do. So 60 in a day seems reasonable.
    We've been told, that Thornhill Surgery has 50 vaccinations in TOTAL.

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    112973 vaccinations as at yesterday 11602 more than the day before.
    So ramping up, may get to Thornhill in next couple of years.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    We've been told, that Thornhill Surgery has 50 vaccinations in TOTAL.
    To be fair Thornhill's quite small isn't it?

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