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    Its a pity Wales didn't have some time to plan and prepare for this moment .

    All this work on the vaccine just appeared from nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    I think the confidence of the Welsh public in Drakeford’s ability to roll out the vaccine is dwindling by the minute.

    “We won’t get another delivery of the Pfizer vaccine until the very end of January or maybe the beginning of February, so that 250,000 doses of vaccine has got to last us six weeks”.

    What on earth is he saying here? If you’ve got a quarter of a million doses of vaccine then what you do is stick them in the arms of high risk Welsh people as soon as humanly possible 24/7 and if you’ve used them all up in a few days then that is a very good thing!
    Folk have conveniently forgot Wales poor NHS before all this and then chuck in transport and education performance it suggests were okay putting up with it as long as we have a particular political party in power , no opposition , no challenges to under performance is unhealthy , same in Scotland , no one talks about their methadone and drug problems which are appalling.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    In all fairness although I have looked I cannot find any direct reference to Drakeford actually saying this., other than the twitter comment on here by a third person attached to a still of him in a briefing.

    Can anyone actually find the clip of him if it was said on air or give a link to the the written statment?
    Or is it deliberate fake news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    In all fairness although I have looked I cannot find any direct reference to Drakeford actually saying this., other than the twitter comment on here by a third person attached to a still of him in a briefing.

    Can anyone actually find the clip of him if it was said on air or give a link to the the written statment?
    Or is it deliberate fake news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Thanks, wouldn't like to try to beat anyone without a stick!!

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55684894

    GPs in north Wales are being advised to consider delaying Covid-19 vaccine appointments early next week due to a hold-up affecting about 26,000 doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    Apologies, I didn't realise there were clinical trials that showed that. What is the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine after 12 weeks? And the Oxford one?
    The Joint Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisations (JCVI) believe both vaccines are likely to offer good enough protection with a 12 week interval between doses.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rt-term-impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    The Joint Committee on Vaccinations and Immunisations (JCVI) believe both vaccines are likely to offer good enough protection with a 12 week interval between doses.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rt-term-impact

    A maximum of 12 weeks between doses is what the JCVI say. Pfizer still say second at 3 weeks. MHRA say no sooner than 3 weeks.

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    Got my first jab booked in for Tuesday and my follow-up booked in for April.

    It took 3 days of ringing to get through to the booking team due to the volume of calls that they were receiving... Make of that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    this seems like cherry picking data.
    I've been comparing England and Wales throughout the pandemic, and for most of it England has been higher than Wales . and I think if you look at deaths overall since the start England's rate is higher.
    for a short period in December and the start of January Wales were higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    this seems like cherry picking data.
    I've been comparing England and Wales throughout the pandemic, and for most of it England has been higher than Wales . and I think if you look at deaths overall since the start England's rate is higher.
    for a short period in December and the start of January Wales were higher
    I thought it was pertinent to juxtapose those figures with Drakeford's comments that the deployment of the Pfizer vaccine in Wales is being delayed to prevent vaccinators having nothing to do if all the existing supply is used up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Got my first jab booked in for Tuesday and my follow-up booked in for April.

    It took 3 days of ringing to get through to the booking team due to the volume of calls that they were receiving... Make of that what you will.
    What group are you in if you dont mind me asking?

    I make it that they need more people answering the phones.

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    So they vaccinate for half a day, stand around the rest of it so they can vaccinate the next half day and stand around the rest of the day ad infinitum. A friggin’ joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    So they vaccinate for half a day, stand around the rest of it so they can vaccinate the next half day and stand around the rest of the day ad infinitum. A friggin’ joke.
    they aren't going to be standing around though are they as they'll just switch onto the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    they aren't going to be standing around though are they as they'll just switch onto the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
    Mark Drakeford defends decision to delay deployment of Pfizer vaccine supplies on #r4today: "There would be no point and certainly it would be logistically damaging to use up all our vaccines in the first week and have our vaccinators standing around with nothing to do."

    Not said a word about Astra Zeneca vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Mark Drakeford defends decision to delay deployment of Pfizer vaccine supplies on #r4today: "There would be no point and certainly it would be logistically damaging to use up all our vaccines in the first week and have our vaccinators standing around with nothing to do."
    I have no idea why they're doing it, and it doesn't sound like drakeford does either. presumably a decision made for a logistical reason that hasn't been explained well enough.
    from a political point of view it would be far better frlor drakeford to burn through the vaccines as fast as possible and then moan loudly that the UK government weren't giving them enough.

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    I may have missed something but who are these vaccinators who would be standing around doing nothing? Surely they have their normal "day jobs" to be getting on with or has WAG somehow magically conjured up lots of unemployed people to become vaccinators?

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I have no idea why they're doing it, and it doesn't sound like drakeford does either. presumably a decision made for a logistical reason that hasn't been explained well enough.
    from a political point of view it would be far better frlor drakeford to burn through the vaccines as fast as possible and then moan loudly that the UK government weren't giving them enough.
    To believe that Drakeford said something that he has no idea about is to suggest that he listens to people and takes advice. But everything we know about him suggests that he makes all the decisions and he lays down the rules and those around him just agree. He is dogmatic and believes he knows best, plus a lot of his decisions and his utterences whether right or wrong, have been politically motivated, which probably isn't the best reason for making them in such trying uncertain times..
    I think on the evidence of his previous statements we must assume he knows exactly what he is saying, and he clearly cannot see anything wrong with the policy he is employing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    What group are you in if you dont mind me asking?

    I make it that they need more people answering the phones.
    Front line social care.

    I just heard that they are introducing online bookings for certain professionals to help ease the burden on the phone lines too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    they aren't going to be standing around though are they as they'll just switch onto the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
    So what is Drakeford talking about?

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-55704017

    Wales' first minister has been accused of a "go-slow" vaccination strategy after he defended the speed of the Covid jab roll-out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    What group are you in if you dont mind me asking?

    I make it that they need more people answering the phones.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Front line social care.

    I just heard that they are introducing online bookings for certain professionals to help ease the burden on the phone lines too.
    Cheers - i was just wondering if they're starting to invite anyone below 80 yet. Seems not at the moment.

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    "There would be no point and certainly it would be logistically damaging to rescue all the people from the burning building as quickly as possible and have our firemen standing around with nothing to do."

    This is Drakeford's logic. It's insane.

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