NEIL HARRIS SACKED - CONFIRMED

[blue lewj]

Youre cocking your nose up at 40%. What previous win rate is going to be acceptable for you not to threaten to not renew your season ticket before a manager has even taken charge of a game? 45%? 50%%? 60%

What I'm cocking my nose up at is his win percentage this season.

25%.

You'll probably have a response. It wasn't good enough in my eyes and wasn't in the eyes of the owner. That's about it really.

On to the new man who hopefully gets us playing a bit and winning games.

[RonnieBird]

I'd just like to say thank you Mr Harris for your services to the club.

You must have known it wouldn't be an easy ride inheriting a bunch of players failing as a team. Getting us to the play offs last year was no mean achievement.
You brought a few good boys in but unfortunately it wasn't quite enough.
I have no doubt you gave it your best shot.

I wish you good luck for the future.

+ 1

He must be going through it right now and it's not his fault because he gave it 100% and did his best. There was a big element of bad luck but sadly the bottom line is results so although it could easily have gone differently ,it didn't , and he carries the can.

I for one have complete respect for him and wish him very well indeed. I have no doubt that he's learned a great deal which will help him go on to great success somewhere in time.

[bigjoe]

To give you some samples

Mark Hughes - 37%
Paul Cook - 43%
Eddie Howe - 41%
Tony Pulis - 36%

Interesting stats. The draws (or not losing) must make the big difference then.
NH comes to about 1.45 points/game for CCFC compared to MM at 1.62. MM's must have been pretty good in the Championship.

(oops - replied to wrong post)

[LeningradCowboy]

What I'm cocking my nose up at is his win percentage this season.

25%.

You'll probably have a response. It wasn't good enough in my eyes and wasn't in the eyes of the owner. That's about it really.

On to the new man who hopefully gets us playing a bit and winning games.

Our win percentage this season is not 25%.

[Dave Blue]

Whoever comes in will have to cope with fans calling for the manager’s head after 2 defeats on the trot (a la Real Madrid) and saying we deserve better (quoting our glorious history of 2 seasons in top flight in 50 years).

[LeningradCowboy]

40% win record is not to be sniffed at.

Malkys time with Cardiff was a success and his win record was 43%.

His record at Watford before he got the job was 33%

if people think we are going to get a manager with a win rate much above 40% they are seriously, seriously deluded.

Yeah, winning 40% of your games is not a problem.

Neil Harris's problem was the 11 defeats in 24 league games this season.

[blue lewj]

Our win percentage this season is not 25%.

You are right. It is 33%. I looked at Millwall below City as I looked across.

It is still not good enough for this team or squad. The sentiment remains.

[blue lewj]

It amazes me that some are still arguing for Harris on the thread.

It was nowhere near enough this time round. If this wasn't sorted out he could well have taken us down.

[Llandaff Blue]

Whoever comes in will have to cope with fans calling for the manager’s head after 2 defeats on the trot (a la Real Madrid) and saying we deserve better (quoting our glorious history of 2 seasons in top flight in 50 years).

We certainly deserve better than 6 defeats in a row surely

[Pedro de la Rosa]

It amazes me that some are still arguing for Harris on the thread.

It was nowhere near enough this time round. If this wasn't sorted out he could well have taken us down.

Nobody is defending Harris but they're criticising you because you're talking out of your arse.

Your first post says his win %age was similar to Millwall, then you say it isn't that, its this and then that. Just give it a bloody rest. Stick to watching Schalke and leave the stats .

[NYCBlue]

Thank you and good luck Neil

I'm never happy when anybody loses their job but the warning signs were there from the League Cup game at Northampton that the team was all over the place and your job was to identify that and rectify it - it didn't happen and performances have not improved. The Coventry, Wycombe and Derby defeats were utterly dreadful. The Swansea defeat was depressing in seeing the gulf in class to a team that finished behind us last season.

The harsh reality is that it wasn't going to improve without a different approach and the board were therefore right in their decision.

I wish you well and hope you can find another job in football as he seems a decent fella

Harris is going to spend the next 20 years making upwards of £250K. He'll be fine.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Harris is going to spend the next 20 years making upwards of £250K. He'll be fine.

I very much doubt that. He's going to struggle to get a Champ job next and if he doesn't crack his next job, he'll probably be done.

[NYCBlue]

To give you some samples

Mark Hughes - 37%
Paul Cook - 43%
Eddie Howe - 41%
Tony Pulis - 36%

Win rate is a strange statistic. As you say, 40+% is decent. PPG would a much better indicator. But even then, one bad season (like being relegated from the PL - or a couple of seasons struggling in the PL) can screw that up.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Win rate is a strange statistic. As you say, 40+% is decent. PPG would a much better indicator. But even then, one bad season (like being relegated from the PL - or a couple of seasons struggling in the PL) can screw that up.

Alan Cork has a win rate of nearly 49% and yet he wasn't very good! Slade had a win rate of 39.2% which is close to Warnock, Mackay, Jones etc.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Alan Cork has a win rate of nearly 49% and yet he wasn't very good! Slade had a win rate of 39.2% which is close to Warnock, Mackay, Jones etc.

Whats he doing now?

Could be the answer.........

[goats]

Whats he doing now?

Could be the answer.........

Just spotted on the Severn bridge heading west laughing his head off

[2b2bdoo]

Great news, wrong manager from day one. I have nothing postive to say about him or his appointment.

[J R Hartley]

It amazes me that some are still arguing for Harris on the thread.

It was nowhere near enough this time round. If this wasn't sorted out he could well have taken us down.

You should put your CV into Wayne Nash youre very good at moving the goalposts.

[J R Hartley]

Great news, wrong manager from day one. I have nothing postive to say about him or his appointment.

Youve never got anything positive to say about anything. One of lifes moaners. Im surprised youre able to get out of bed in the morning.

[198bore]

Great news, wrong manager from day one. I have nothing postive to say about him or his appointment.

Harsh.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Youve never got anything positive to say about anything. One of lifes moaners. Im surprised youre able to get out of bed in the morning.

What did you see in Harris's sides performances that enabled you to keep the faith with him?

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Confirmed.

Personally not particularly happy about it when it’s the players fault but he made the decision a lot easier

Good luck to Harris don’t think he was helped by the players but onto pastures new for us.

Interesting to see who they will bring in

Agreed ... having said that, if many of the current players want to improve, they need to find a new club.

[J R Hartley]

Win rate is a strange statistic. As you say, 40+% is decent. PPG would a much better indicator. But even then, one bad season (like being relegated from the PL - or a couple of seasons struggling in the PL) can screw that up.

Oh I agree but Lewj brought it up and seems to be implying we should never had appointed Harris in the first place because his won ration was ONLY 41.6% at Millwall. He got Millwall promoted, got us to play-offs in his first season. Im sure there will be other teams taking a punt on him, he wont be out of work long. It didnt happen for him this season but hey ho such is life. At least it gives you lot the chance to sharpen your knives ready for the next manager.

[Forest Green Bluebird]

Can’t see Morrison staying with the under 23s either.

Possibly put in interim charge?

Saw the highlights of the U23 game v the Jacks and it was actually a pleasure seeing a decent standard of football.

[J R Hartley]

What did you see in Harris's sides performances that enabled you to keep the faith with him?

Empathy towards his situation this season is why I kept the faith in him. I also think he earned credit last season and deserved the chance to turn it around. It didnt happen and hes paid the price. 6 losses in a row I cant defend him but as ive said I dont believe hes making all the decisions. Especially this last month or so.

Lets see how the next manager can do with a midfield of Vaulks / Ralls / Pack / Bacuna.