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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardM View Post
    Bellamy wouldn't want it.
    That’s why it seems unlikely

  2. #2

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    The new manager is critical to how the next few years will pan out. Change was needed, some would argue sooner.

    For me he did well last season, abysmally this season and the playing style hardly changed from that under Warnock. For me he had to go.

  3. #3

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    I wouldn't want Bellamy managing a team low on morale

  4. #4

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    I dont feel in the least bit sorry for 2 blokes in their early 20s leaving Crawley and Crewe joining a bigger club on 1000s a week. Im sure they will cope.

  5. #5

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    Good luck, Harris. Good bloke, did a great job last season but sadly the wheels have come off big time. All the best.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    "The Club". Feel a bit sorry for Watters, especially. If the new manager doesn't play 442, he's not going to get a look in. Ng will be fine, though.
    I wondered if Harris was sticking two fingers up at the board by substituting Watters after 55 minutes last night.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    I wondered if Harris was sticking two fingers up at the board by substituting Watters after 55 minutes last night.
    I wondered that too. I've heard that the two new boys in weren't his signings - so it was make sense.

    If that's true is there the possibility that the incoming manager recommended them?

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyllisStant View Post
    I wondered that too. I've heard that the two new boys in weren't his signings - so it was make sense.

    If that's true is there the possibility that the incoming manager recommended them?
    Where did you hear this?

    If there is any grain of truth to that then whoever we get on board is up against it.

  9. #9

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    It's an honour and a privilege to manage Cardiff City FC. Unfortunately it hasn't worked out for Neil and CCFC this season, so it's probably for the best.

  10. #10

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    Why on earth have we let Harris see through most of January? Should have been sacked after Wycombe.

    Anyway good luck to him wherever he goes next, he was unfortunately not the right guy for us. God knows who the board will appoint next

  11. #11

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    He did say some daft things though.
    "I've shown, in my managerial career, that if I'm given time then I can be successful," Harris said after the match.
    nh.JPG

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjoe View Post
    He did say some daft things though.
    "I've shown, in my managerial career, that if I'm given time then I can be successful," Harris said after the match.
    nh.JPG
    And therein lies the problem.

    What he did here is no surprise. His win percentage was not far off what he achieved at Millwall. His playing style wasn't that different to what he produced at Millwall.

    It makes you wonder what the three who picked him thought he was going to achieve here?

    The cheap option again it seems which has turned into an expensive pay off again.

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    And therein lies the problem.

    What he did here is no surprise. His win percentage was not far off what he achieved at Millwall. His playing style wasn't that different to what he produced at Millwall.

    It makes you wonder what the three who picked him thought he was going to achieve here?

    The cheap option again it seems which has turned into an expensive pay off again.
    40% win record is not to be sniffed at.

    Malkys time with Cardiff was a success and his win record was 43%.

    His record at Watford before he got the job was 33%

    if people think we are going to get a manager with a win rate much above 40% they are seriously, seriously deluded.

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    40% win record is not to be sniffed at.

    Malkys time with Cardiff was a success and his win record was 43%.

    His record at Watford before he got the job was 33%

    if people think we are going to get a manager with a win rate much above 40% they are seriously, seriously deluded.
    Who said we are?

    When all is said and done. He did well to get us to the play offs last season but we did not go up.

    15th this season wasn't good enough and it wasn't for the owner.

    That is about it really.

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Who said we are?

    When all is said and done. He did well to get us to the play offs last season but we did not go up.

    15th this season wasn't good enough and it wasn't for the owner.

    That is about it really.
    Youre cocking your nose up at 40%. What previous win rate is going to be acceptable for you not to threaten to not renew your season ticket before a manager has even taken charge of a game? 45%? 50%%? 60%

  16. #16

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    I'd just like to say thank you Mr Harris for your services to the club.

    You must have known it wouldn't be an easy ride inheriting a bunch of players failing as a team. Getting us to the play offs last year was no mean achievement.
    You brought a few good boys in but unfortunately it wasn't quite enough.
    I have no doubt you gave it your best shot.

    I wish you good luck for the future.

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyllisStant View Post
    I wondered that too. I've heard that the two new boys in weren't his signings - so it was make sense.

    If that's true is there the possibility that the incoming manager recommended them?
    Possibly.
    If they weren't his boys, and it seems to make sense, then it could be that whoever comes in will just have to work with what he's got and continue getting the big wage earners off the books.
    I sincerely hope not and that they have some "proper" plan in mind!

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    I'd just like to say thank you Mr Harris for your services to the club.

    You must have known it wouldn't be an easy ride inheriting a bunch of players failing as a team. Getting us to the play offs last year was no mean achievement.
    You brought a few good boys in but unfortunately it wasn't quite enough.
    I have no doubt you gave it your best shot.

    I wish you good luck for the future.

    + 1

    He must be going through it right now and it's not his fault because he gave it 100% and did his best. There was a big element of bad luck but sadly the bottom line is results so although it could easily have gone differently ,it didn't , and he carries the can.

    I for one have complete respect for him and wish him very well indeed. I have no doubt that he's learned a great deal which will help him go on to great success somewhere in time.

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    40% win record is not to be sniffed at.

    Malkys time with Cardiff was a success and his win record was 43%.

    His record at Watford before he got the job was 33%

    if people think we are going to get a manager with a win rate much above 40% they are seriously, seriously deluded.
    Yeah, winning 40% of your games is not a problem.

    Neil Harris's problem was the 11 defeats in 24 league games this season.

  20. #20

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    It amazes me that some are still arguing for Harris on the thread.

    It was nowhere near enough this time round. If this wasn't sorted out he could well have taken us down.

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    And therein lies the problem.

    What he did here is no surprise. His win percentage was not far off what he achieved at Millwall. His playing style wasn't that different to what he produced at Millwall.

    It makes you wonder what the three who picked him thought he was going to achieve here?

    The cheap option again it seems which has turned into an expensive pay off again.
    I can see why it could have been thought a good thing. We've been through some extremes in playing "style": OGS and Trollope vs Mackay, (Slade) and Warnock. It's expensive to make wholesale changes in players every other manager. They probably thought that he was a slightly more modern Warnock that could have steered the team to a more modern game.

  22. #22

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    and his wikipedia page needs to be updated

  23. #23

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    A really good man, a pleasure to deal with and tried his best to change things from the ground up. Really admired his passion for youth and desire to see the academy flourish and I'm sure rewards will be reaped in time.

    But, as he also knew, it's ultimately a results business and they have simply not been good enough.
    Injuries have not helped, but the football flipped and flopped from one style or system to another.
    Just couldn't strike the right balance and ultimately the price has been paid

    https://twitter.com/GlenWilliams12/s...83200823975936
    It was ultimately the right decision but we shouldn't forget what he was aiming for. Next manager isn't going to have it easy thanks to mismanagement before Harris arrived but will have it easier, in the long run, due to Harris' time at the club.

    (and we shouldn't forget that his winning percentage has only just dropped below what Warnock managed here).

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    It was ultimately the right decision but we shouldn't forget what he was aiming for. Next manager isn't going to have it easy thanks to mismanagement before Harris arrived but will have it easier, in the long run, due to Harris' time at the club.

    (and we shouldn't forget that his winning percentage has only just dropped below what Warnock managed here).
    There is that but Warnock had a season in the Premier League which knocked that down a fair bit. Let's not forget that.

  25. #25

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    The right call. We need a spark and I'd go with Bellamy. It's time...

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