Unilateral Tan

[jon1959]

Tan doesn't need to consult fans or fan representatives - but it would help him if he did.

Tan/Dalman don't need to communicate directly with the fans - they can rely on a few press releases and off the records with local journalists - but it would help them if they did.

Tan has done press and fan meetings before and when he came out defend Slade and talk about the club debt he got a lot of goodwill, even if he changed very few minds.

When Warnock was doing his fan forums it seemed the board were happy to let him be the sole face of the club. Harris didn't have much chance to do the same away from the pre and post match press conferences. It is long past the time when the owner or Chair should re-engage.

When a manager is appointed on a six month contract it implies there is a plan of sorts in place - because something has to happen at the end of that period even if it is just to extend (hopefully not). There is a lot to say about the future of our club and Tan and/or Dalman should be saying it. Good communication is vital, but too often undervalued.

[dembethewarrior]

Do we need a relegation from this division to start the new beginning and wipe everything we and the players know.
Start fresh from the top, and rebuild the team and its direction.
Its ingrained to lump it forward in everyone of these players.
Morrison is a good defender but the times I scream at him everytime he and the rest of our players just hoof the ball to nobody from one end of the pitch to the other, really gets on my tnits.

I for one wouldn't moan if we went down and it meant starting again, with an actual plan to move forward. That's why I wouldn't have been against a new long term manager coming in now and having a few months to try and keep us up, and if he didn't **** it, sell on the deadwood and start over.

Shite football is engrained from head to toe at this club, people mention promotions and cup runs, well yeah no doubt its easier to put up with shit football when it brings wins but nobody actually WANTS to watch that shit week in week out.

[jon1959]

Trust Gives Its Verdict On Mick McCarthy Appointment

Keith Morgan, chair of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, responding to the appointment of Mick McCarthy as manager to replace Neil Harris, said:

“The dismissal of Neil Harris was inevitable given the run of six successive defeats and such poor displays.

"The appointment of Mick McCarthy, who we obviously wish success in the role, until the end of the season is a short-term measure to ensure safety in the Championship and will, hopefully, involve a push towards the Play-Offs.

“The club has brought in someone who has enjoyed success at Championship level, although that was over a decade ago.

“What is vital is that we hear from Cardiff City management about what is their long term strategy to take the club forward after Mick McCarthy's contract ends. We know many fans are also concerned about the style of football played and other clubs around us do seem to have a comprehensive plan, from the Academy to the first team - so should Cardiff City. Supporters will not want the club to stutter from one short term “fix" to another. We need vision and stability. "

[Divine Wright]

Trust Gives Its Verdict On Mick McCarthy Appointment

Keith Morgan, chair of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, responding to the appointment of Mick McCarthy as manager to replace Neil Harris, said:

“The dismissal of Neil Harris was inevitable given the run of six successive defeats and such poor displays.

"The appointment of Mick McCarthy, who we obviously wish success in the role, until the end of the season is a short-term measure to ensure safety in the Championship and will, hopefully, involve a push towards the Play-Offs.

“The club has brought in someone who has enjoyed success at Championship level, although that was over a decade ago.

“What is vital is that we hear from Cardiff City management about what is their long term strategy to take the club forward after Mick McCarthy's contract ends. We know many fans are also concerned about the style of football played and other clubs around us do seem to have a comprehensive plan, from the Academy to the first team - so should Cardiff City. Supporters will not want the club to stutter from one short term “fix" to another. We need vision and stability. "

All it's going to take now is for one of Tan's urchins to pass the word along the dark corridors of international commerce. ..... and then for Tan himself to stop and think before waving it away.

[dembethewarrior]

Trust Gives Its Verdict On Mick McCarthy Appointment

Keith Morgan, chair of Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, responding to the appointment of Mick McCarthy as manager to replace Neil Harris, said:

“The dismissal of Neil Harris was inevitable given the run of six successive defeats and such poor displays.

"The appointment of Mick McCarthy, who we obviously wish success in the role, until the end of the season is a short-term measure to ensure safety in the Championship and will, hopefully, involve a push towards the Play-Offs.

“The club has brought in someone who has enjoyed success at Championship level, although that was over a decade ago.

“What is vital is that we hear from Cardiff City management about what is their long term strategy to take the club forward after Mick McCarthy's contract ends. We know many fans are also concerned about the style of football played and other clubs around us do seem to have a comprehensive plan, from the Academy to the first team - so should Cardiff City. Supporters will not want the club to stutter from one short term “fix" to another. We need vision and stability. "

Here here.

[NYCBlue]

Tan is just an idiot with very deep pockets.

[RonnieBird]

Of course people are presuming that this'll go wrong and he'll need to appoint another manager.
I don't think it will.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Remember, things can ALWAYS get worse.



The OPs heart is in the right place though, not going to knock that. A dose of non-league football or the bottom half of League 2 will make anyone appreciate what we have at CCFC.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Relegation for a club like Leeds, Sunderland etc to division one is a kick in the pants but clubs like that get back up

We could get cast adrift again if we went down

It has to be avoided at all costs

[Citizen's Nephew]

Relegation for a club like Leeds, Sunderland etc to division one is a kick in the pants but clubs like that get back up

We could get cast adrift again if we went down

It has to be avoided at all costs

So this!

[J R Hartley]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

[LeningradCowboy]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

100%

[surge]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

Tan's now been in football for ten'ish years across three clubs and in two continents. He should know more than feck all about the sport, but if he still doesn't he's surrounded himself with the wrong people.

Who knows what Dalman and Choo do behind the scenes? There has been such little communication from the board over past number of years that managers are left to fill the gaps but, when they have spoken in the past, Choo comes across well and Dalman comes across as a bit slimy.

We need more structure at the club, as you have said.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

Yup, 100% from me too. Excellent summary. To get into the PL twice within 5 years only to be relegated on each occasion is a footballing and financial travesty. It took 52 (?) odd years to get back into the top tier. I really don't understand the club management structure at all.

[horse_face]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

Wholeheartedly agree, there’s a gulf from board from to footballing decisions. We need Tan to be advised by a Sporting Director. Not a Car salesman and a slimy investment banker.

We need a sustainable future not short term rash decisions, which are masqueraded as ‘sensible appointments’

[goats]

Wholeheartedly agree, there’s a gulf from board from to footballing decisions. We need Tan to be advised by a Sporting Director. Not a Car salesman and a slimy investment banker.

We need a sustainable future not short term rash decisions, which are masqueraded as ‘sensible appointments’

The jacks have had Alan Curtis for years keeping things stable and ticking over

[goats]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

I agree with this....sure he might have the funds, but he blows them in ways unimaginable and then blames whoever, managers, agents bla bla but never his CEO....so clueless. Look at the jacks, they actually sell more managers than they sack....Make huge profits on players transfers and have youth coming through.....meanwhile Tan continues on his fruitless mission listening to all the wrong people and no doubt wondering where it all goes wrong.....I used to dream of us having a wealthy owner 30 years ago instead of Tony Clemo, but I’m not sure what’s worse.....

[Divine Wright]

Vincent Tan keeps, or rather kept the club afloat, and for that I am grateful, but let’s not ignore the fact that an absolute shitload of money has been wasted and continues to be wasted under his stewardship because he is not taking the right advice.

I’m not saying he should consult fans on managerial appointments or player transfers but he sure as hell needs a sporting director or structure in place so that he starts getting better value for the millions he’s putting in.

Tan, Choo and Dalman know **** all about football and they are still being led by agents or chancers like Warnock. They are not new to the game anymore, surely by now they can see for the long term success of this club the current structure does not work.

He can’t let go of the Acorn signing nearly 8 years ago but we’ve wasted that ten fold since Malky left and Tan and the three amigos took charge of transfers.

Club is a basket case.

If they consulted the fans through the Trust, I'm sure this is one of the points they would bring up.

"The club needs to have an expert in charge of the overall direction we need to go in "

He COULD tell them to go **** themselves but anyone who is open to what their "customers" want would at least bear that in mind.

I'm just sick of this guy doing whatever he wants and then expecting us fans to swallow the whole #CITYASONE bullshit.

Meanwhile, we might have a football club that is in better financial shape but we are going to spend decades watching a merry go round of dinosaurs and journeymen go through the club. We'll become Ipswich or Hull ..... because the club is poorly managed.

[Vindec]

It probably would have cost upwards of £200m for the club to last longer than one season in the Premier League. Those that don't spend normally get relegated. We have wasted a lot of money undoubtedly but that was a relatively small sum compared with the amount we would have needed to spend to retain Premier League status. Do people honestly believe that consulting fans over a new manager would make a blind bit of difference, and we simply don't have the funds to spend £100s of millions required to retain Premier League status.

[WJ99mobile]

So much disrespect for Tan who has done one thing wrong in his entire tenure.

[The Lone Gunman]

So much disrespect for Tan who has done one thing wrong in his entire tenure.

Just the one?

[goats]

Just the one?

I’d say his main job is to find a decent CEO and manager.....still waiting it seems

[NYCBlue]

So much disrespect for Tan who has done one thing wrong in his entire tenure.

That was a pretty big thing. And it showed who he is and how much he knows.

But apart from that, he's just failed to execute time and time again. He has shown poor judgment. He hasn't learned from his mistakes. He doesn't take appropriate action and just literally phones it in.

[WJ99mobile]

Do we need a relegation from this division to start the new beginning and wipe everything we and the players know.
Start fresh from the top, and rebuild the team and its direction.
Its ingrained to lump it forward in everyone of these players.
Morrison is a good defender but the times I scream at him everytime he and the rest of our players just hoof the ball to nobody from one end of the pitch to the other, really gets on my tits.

Ask Sunderland if a relegation sorted everything out.

[WJ99mobile]

Not strictly true, is it? Tan owns the club, the fans are just a customers, as he was keen to point out on numerous occasions during the rebrand era.

Until football is self sufficient with normalised wages this is what it is.

Unless you fancy paying wages out of your savings?