Well done Joe

[life on mars]

Wasn't Biden's vote the largest vote in election history ?? More than Trump ?? Surely not ??

Of course it was but Trump bettering Obama is both amazing and worrying in terms of the USA expecially after the two terms of Obama politics, you'd think it would've be a better place and the electorate would have bought into the Obama policies and the dawn of a new way of American politics within the USA and abroad, surely thevUSA was headed up by great president??

[Tito Fuente]

Of course it was but Trump bettering Obama is both amazing and worrying in terms of the USA expecially after the two terms of Obama politics, you'd think it would've be a better place and the electorate would have bought into the Obama policies and the dawn of a new way of American politics within the USA and abroad, surely thevUSA was headed up by great president??

That's a very weird take, I must say.

Trump didn't "better" Obama as it wasn't a contest between them in 2020. He lost to Biden by seven million
actual votes and 74 electoral college votes though.

I have no doubt that if he had come up against Obama instead of Biden then that chasm would have been even greater.

The turnout for the last election was the biggest in US history, which is why both candidates ended up with the unprecedented amount of votes that they received.

It would be wise to remember that Trump actually lost the popular vote to Hilary Clinton in 2016 too (by 3 million votes), meaning that he has had fewer votes than both of his counterparts he's faced in the two Presidential elections he's entered.

If Trump couldn't even match Hilary's popular vote count, how do you think he could have come close to someone who is/was as popular as Barack Obama?

You might want to process that information before you think about replying with something which is equally as (or more) nonsensical as your previous post.

[Dorcus]

Of course it was but Trump bettering Obama is both amazing and worrying in terms of the USA expecially after the two terms of Obama politics, you'd think it would've be a better place and the electorate would have bought into the Obama policies and the dawn of a new way of American politics within the USA and abroad, surely thevUSA was headed up by great president??

Not if you're a White Supremacist

[Dorcus]

It confuses me too.

If you see 75 + 81 = more than the number of voters, then there's only two explanations:

1. Despite it being the most scrutinised and talked about election in all of history, nobody spotted a basic mathematical discrepancy for over a year.

2. The figures are wrong.


Why anyone would plough ahead with number 1 without even pausing to check number 2 is beyond me!

Exactly 👍

[Dorcus]

That's a very weird take, I must say.

Trump didn't "better" Obama as it wasn't a contest between them in 2020. He lost to Biden by seven million
actual votes and 74 electoral college votes though.

I have no doubt that if he had come up against Obama instead of Biden then that chasm would have been even greater.

The turnout for the last election was the biggest in US history, which is why both candidates ended up with the unprecedented amount of votes that they received.

It would be wise to remember that Trump actually lost the popular vote to Hilary Clinton in 2016 too (by 3 million votes), meaning that he has had fewer votes than both of his counterparts he's faced in the two Presidential elections he's entered.

If Trump couldn't even match Hilary's popular vote count, how do you think he could have come close to someone who is/was as popular as Barack Obama?

You might want to process that information before you think about replying with something which is equally as (more) nonsensical as your previous post.

Old Confusius saying...

"Put brain in gear before moving mouth"

[life on mars]

Old Confusius saying...

"Put brain in gear before moving mouth"

Brain in MOMENT gear moment , I'm guessing you know what was being said all along below is a list of the votes cast against each person in order :

Candidate Year Party Popular vote
Joe Biden 2020 Democratic 81,268,924[1] Winner.
Donald Trump 2020 Republican 74,216,154[1] Runner-up.
Barack Obama 2008 Democratic 69,498,516[2] Winner.
Barack Obama 2012 Democratic 65,915,795[3] Winner.
Hillary Clinton 2016 Democratic 65,853,514[4] Runner-up. W
Donald Trump 2016 Republican 62,984,828[4] Winner.

Just below Donny runner up moment is Obama's votes , hope this make it clearer .

[cyril evans awaydays]

Brain in MOMENT gear moment is easy for you to say.

[lardy]

Brain in MOMENT gear moment , I'm guessing you know what was being said all along below is a list of the votes cast against each person in order :

Candidate Year Party Popular vote
Joe Biden 2020 Democratic 81,268,924[1] Winner.
Donald Trump 2020 Republican 74,216,154[1] Runner-up.
Barack Obama 2008 Democratic 69,498,516[2] Winner.
Barack Obama 2012 Democratic 65,915,795[3] Winner.
Hillary Clinton 2016 Democratic 65,853,514[4] Runner-up. W
Donald Trump 2016 Republican 62,984,828[4] Winner.

Just below Donny runner up moment is Obama's votes , hope this make it clearer .

Ah you're saying that Obama's win in 2008 was more notable than trump's win in 2016. I getcha.

[life on mars]

Ah you're saying that Obama's win in 2008 was more notable than trump's win in 2016. I getcha.

Nope just pointing out how many actual people have voted by candidates over the decades and the striking fact that Joe and Donny head up that voting list and that Obama is in 4th and 5th place and he was a popular man then Donny appears as a winner below Hilary but second as a runner up ?

[Tito Fuente]

Nope just pointing out how many actual people have voted by candidates over the decades and the striking fact that Joe and Donny head up that voting list and that Obama is in 4th and 5th place and he was a popular man then Donny appears as a winner below Hilary but second as a runner up ?

How many re-elections did "Donny" win compared to Obama, out of interest?

[Dorcus]

How many re-elections did "Donny" win compared to Obama, out of interest?

He's talking about Osmond.

[life on mars]

How many re-elections did "Donny" win compared to Obama, out of interest?

Well it could end up as a 2-2 draw with no extra time

[Tito Fuente]

Well it could end up as a 2-2 draw with no extra time

I take it that this is your way of trying to avoid answering questions when you don't like the answers.

Duly noted.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Hang on, are we using the name Donny now? If we add Boris and Vlad, we've got the making of a cross between Spitting Image and Rainbow.

Edit: We could get Tim Burton to direct.

[delmbox]

Mozzer's gone very quiet

[lardy]

Mozzer's gone very quiet

lifeonmars would do well to follow his example

[MOZZER2]

Mozzer's gone very quiet

good lord still alive and kicking and won't be doing a cyril and sludge on you lot

just taking in a breather and ready to unleash my thoughts on the world political landscape . trudeau from Canada is next on my hit list !

[Dorcus]

lifeonmars would do well to follow his example

I agree wholeheartedly but in his defence I for one would miss him; he's great comedy value.

[jon1959]

I agree wholeheartedly but in his defence I for one would miss him; he's great comedy value.

Hmmm. More Stan Boardman than Barry Cryer.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Hmmm. More Stan Boardman than Barry Cryer.

Perhaps more Jim Davidson.

Here were his views on Muslims in the UK.

I'd like the truth from all political parties on their policy towards this issue , and immigration , okay this reported problem is an over exaggeration ,
however these areas are becoming like small countries witin a City , where let's be fair a white person would feel isolated and uncomfortable , on a smaller scale you can see it developing in Riverside and Grangetown.


Lets be honest without being predjuce , its highly unlikely we would chose to live in thier communities and they in ours , we simply do not share the same behaviours or beliefs , in our case relegion has bugger all to do with it , in theirs its a strong presence .

Muslims are about 5% of our population , thats around 3 million, of that the majority are in England , we have about 11k .

Its natural they will grow faster per family as that as they do produce larger families than us , and as they have low paid jobs and poorer housing it creates less attractive areas . It's almost like the 50's where folk found it tough to earn a decent liveable wage , but produced lots of kids , and struggled to finance that , will that cause radicals and areas we may not like to be in , perhaps ?

Change Muslims for Jews and you would have views not out of place in a Waffen SS reunion dinner

[Swiss Peter]

Perhaps more Jim Davidson.

Here were his views on Muslims in the UK.

I'd like the truth from all political parties on their policy towards this issue , and immigration , okay this reported problem is an over exaggeration ,
however these areas are becoming like small countries witin a City , where let's be fair a white person would feel isolated and uncomfortable , on a smaller scale you can see it developing in Riverside and Grangetown.


Lets be honest without being predjuce , its highly unlikely we would chose to live in thier communities and they in ours , we simply do not share the same behaviours or beliefs , in our case relegion has bugger all to do with it , in theirs its a strong presence .

Muslims are about 5% of our population , thats around 3 million, of that the majority are in England , we have about 11k .

Its natural they will grow faster per family as that as they do produce larger families than us , and as they have low paid jobs and poorer housing it creates less attractive areas . It's almost like the 50's where folk found it tough to earn a decent liveable wage , but produced lots of kids , and struggled to finance that , will that cause radicals and areas we may not like to be in , perhaps ?

Change Muslims for Jews and you would have views not out of place in a Waffen SS reunion dinner

He wrote that?! I wouldn't know - he's the only person I have put on ignore since I re-joined this board. Good call by the looks of it.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Perhaps more Jim Davidson.

Here were his views on Muslims in the UK.

I'd like the truth from all political parties on their policy towards this issue , and immigration , okay this reported problem is an over exaggeration ,
however these areas are becoming like small countries witin a City , where let's be fair a white person would feel isolated and uncomfortable , on a smaller scale you can see it developing in Riverside and Grangetown.


Lets be honest without being predjuce , its highly unlikely we would chose to live in thier communities and they in ours , we simply do not share the same behaviours or beliefs , in our case relegion has bugger all to do with it , in theirs its a strong presence .

Muslims are about 5% of our population , thats around 3 million, of that the majority are in England , we have about 11k .

Its natural they will grow faster per family as that as they do produce larger families than us , and as they have low paid jobs and poorer housing it creates less attractive areas . It's almost like the 50's where folk found it tough to earn a decent liveable wage , but produced lots of kids , and struggled to finance that , will that cause radicals and areas we may not like to be in , perhaps ?

Change Muslims for Jews and you would have views not out of place in a Waffen SS reunion dinner

Bloody hell. I live in Grangetown/Riverside (on the cusp of both). Never feel isolated or uncomfortable. Same for Butetown. The biggest problem in the area is we don't encourage enough local people down the CCS. Irony.

[Dorcus]

Hmmm. More Stan Boardman than Barry Cryer.

But he's made me cry a few times. I was going to suggest he's a budding Stanley Unwin.

[MOZZER2]

so another conflict to hinder world peace

president biden says USA forces have captured and killed isis leader AL-Qurayshi on raids in Syria

at least 13 dead including 6 children

FFS

[life on mars]

so another conflict to hinder world peace

president biden says USA forces have captured and killed isis leader AL-Qurayshi on raids in Syria

at least 13 dead including 6 children

FFS

The Trumpys critics quiet