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    Football Commentators, The Accused

    leading on from another thread I think most of them are crap , as are most of the pundits

    Clive Tyldesley has got to be the worst of all time ?

    Jimmy Hill , complete idiot

    Alan Parry , excited scouse school kid

    Tony Gubba , potential but like city never made the big time

    That part geordie one on the BBC? Get rid of him

    Phil Thompson , money for old rope

    Martin Tyler .......don't have SKY , is he still on it ? He was OK


    Locally anyone remember Idwal Robling ?

    Watching Wales v Scotland at anfield 1977 on TV

    Welsh team warming up , Idwal says Welsh centre back looks very much like John Toshack ! Fella on microphone says thats because that is John Toshack Idwal

    We have all been there

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    Hi Sludge. you been fishing lately?

    Saw some guys on the River Blackwater the other day which was in flood so they were clearly escaping something rather than trying to catch something which is understandable.

    Been seriously considering ripping a Cat's whisker through a trout lake although it's a 20+ mile drive from here.

    And yes I remember Idwal Robling.

    Take care. TIB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    Hi Sludge. you been fishing lately?

    Saw some guys on the River Blackwater the other day which was in flood so they were clearly escaping something rather than trying to catch something which is understandable.

    Been seriously considering ripping a Cat's whisker through a trout lake although it's a 20+ mile drive from here.

    And yes I remember Idwal Robling.

    Take care. TIB
    No its banned mate by the clubs I am in

    Wheres the river Blackwater?

    If it was a coarse river I would wait till the floods were over and fish in the smaller rivers running off it where the small fish take cover and that's where the pike and perch which is what I am into go to hunt them

    I have access to a few small rivers but can't fish for trout , even if I could , as the season is march to September

    Only fished a stillwater for trout once or twice , are they open all year round your way ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    No its banned mate by the clubs I am in

    Wheres the river Blackwater?

    If it was a coarse river I would wait till the floods were over and fish in the smaller rivers running off it where the small fish take cover and that's where the pike and perch which is what I am into go to hunt them

    I have access to a few small rivers but can't fish for trout , even if I could , as the season is march to September

    Only fished a stillwater for trout once or twice , are they open all year round your way ?
    River Blackwater runs near Sandhurst on the Berks/Hants border then into the Loddon south of Reading which then joins the Thames east of Reading.

    Some Stillwater trout fishing round here but in winter it’s all lure ripping which ain’t my cuppa.

    Might have a go spinning for pike on some of the open waters on the Thames.

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    Idwal won a tv competition which thousands entered to become a commentator on the 1970 world cup. He got to the last two and was up against Ian St. John but Idwal got it on the casting vote of Alf Ramsey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    leading on from another thread I think most of them are crap , as are most of the pundits

    Clive Tyldesley has got to be the worst of all time ?

    Jimmy Hill , complete idiot

    Alan Parry , excited scouse school kid

    Tony Gubba , potential but like city never made the big time

    That part geordie one on the BBC? Get rid of him

    Phil Thompson , money for old rope

    Martin Tyler .......don't have SKY , is he still on it ? He was OK


    Locally anyone remember Idwal Robling ?

    Watching Wales v Scotland at anfield 1977 on TV

    Welsh team warming up , Idwal says Welsh centre back looks very much like John Toshack ! Fella on microphone says thats because that is John Toshack Idwal

    We have all been there
    Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.

    Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.

    I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.

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    First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.
    you could still just listen to the radio yer daft old sexist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.

    Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.

    I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.
    I listen to 5 live a lot and like John Murray (especially when there's been a "bw-king"), Ian Dennis and Alistair Bruce-Ball, even if there is a touch of the Partridge about him. Not so fussed on Conor McNamara and fully agree with everything said about Vikki Sparks, she's awful. As for the pundits, agree with another comment on here about Pat Nevin. Always uses more words than necessary and is always right. Can't listen to him, especially when paired with Sparks for the Hall of Shame commentary team.

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    Clive Tildesley commentates on EPL games for NBC. I think he commentated on one of the FA Cup matches for ESPN today.

    The main commentators for NBC -who have the rights to the EPL- are Arlo White and Peter Drury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Clive Tildesley commentates on EPL games for NBC. I think he commentated on one of the FA Cup matches for ESPN today.

    The main commentators for NBC -who have the rights to the EPL- are Arlo White and Peter Drury.
    There's an international feed for Premier League games, covered mainly by White and Drury. Clearly NBC use that feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    There's an international feed for Premier League games, covered mainly by White and Drury. Clearly NBC use that feed.
    It's actually White and Tildsley that our main commentators now. We get them for dedicated US games with Graeme Le Saux and Lee Dixon usually one at a time but sometimes together. They are quite entertaining. Especially Lee Dixon. They interact with the studio panel and do a before and after. We get two main games on Saturday and depending on who's playing and when, one on Sunday and/or Monday. We also get every other PL game presented from the studio but using the international feed. Which unfortunately may involve Andy Townsend or Efan Ekoku. Obviously, the schedule this year is completely different to what we're used to. Not sure what sort of coverage we'll be getting today. NBC is normally very good on weekends, but the midweek B-team is not as engaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
    Idwal won a tv competition which thousands entered to become a commentator on the 1970 world cup. He got to the last two and was up against Ian St. John but Idwal got it on the casting vote of Alf Ramsey.
    Our very own Hugh Johns , commentate on 1970 World Cup

    Covered HTV sport for ages

    God rest his soul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.

    Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.

    I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.
    if you see John Murray tell him I want a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.
    no women allowed to go to football matches ?

    Thats a bit harsh

    I have met some right sorts down the city

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.

    You're leaving yourself open to abuse on here mate expressing those sentiments ! Although I'm not quite as anti-woman as you appear to be, broadly speaking I'm in your camp.

    For me the worse female match commentator is Vicki Sparks. I hate her voice with a passion. She speaks in tired old clichés and uses ridiculous inflections in her voice to generate excitement. She even copied the famous Agueerrrro commentary, the one when his late goal won the league for Man City. Leicester scored and she screamed out Vaaarrrrrdy in the same drawn out fashion and sounded like a wailing banshee.

    The worse co-commentator by far us Karen Carney. Horrible nasal twang and a lazy way of speaking. She takes hindsight to a new level. If a player has a shot saved by placing it high, she says he should have hit it low and vice versa. Hope the BBC get rid of her ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    You're leaving yourself open to abuse on here mate expressing those sentiments ! Although I'm not quite as anti-woman as you appear to be, broadly speaking I'm in your camp.

    For me the worse female match commentator is Vicki Sparks. I hate her voice with a passion. She speaks in tired old clichés and uses ridiculous inflections in her voice to generate excitement. She even copied the famous Agueerrrro commentary, the one when his late goal won the league for Man City. Leicester scored and she screamed out Vaaarrrrrdy in the same drawn out fashion and sounded like a wailing banshee.

    The worse co-commentator by far us Karen Carney. Horrible nasal twang and a lazy way of speaking. She takes hindsight to a new level. If a player has a shot saved by placing it high, she says he should have hit it low and vice versa. Hope the BBC get rid of her ASAP.
    I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

    As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

    As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.
    Do we really need analysts ? Jamie Carragher, Neville spout on before, during and after every game and it's just jibberish. One of the delights of a wet Saturday afternoon when City were away was to sit in front of Gillette Soccer Saturday and enjoy a few middle aged blokes - just like you'd meet at a game - tutting, shaking their heads, having a laugh, a moan. The last thing I want is some smart-arsed bloke or woman explaining the finer points of kicking a bit of leather and plastic around the pitch..

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    There’s more talking on football highlights shows, than there is action.

    I record and fast forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    There’s more talking on football highlights shows, than there is action.

    I record and fast forward
    I do the same with your posts on here.


    Just teasing, old fruit

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    Tyldesley has got to be the worst ever.
    Completely OTT and would be better suited to radio commentary as he would make the listener think the drab nil nil was a classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Do we really need analysts ? Jamie Carragher, Neville spout on before, during and after every game and it's just jibberish. One of the delights of a wet Saturday afternoon when City were away was to sit in front of Gillette Soccer Saturday and enjoy a few middle aged blokes - just like you'd meet at a game - tutting, shaking their heads, having a laugh, a moan. The last thing I want is some smart-arsed bloke or woman explaining the finer points of kicking a bit of leather and plastic around the pitch..
    If an analyst tells me something about a game I hadn’t noticed I’ve got no problem with them and Alex Scott has done that a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

    As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.
    Thinking of Tyler, here's a comparison with Motty for Gerrard's leveller in the 2006 FA Cup final.





    I reckon we'd all have different opinions on this and think it's good to have a head to head. My vote goes for Tyler. I prefer the way he lets the crowd paint the picture in the immediate aftermath of the goal. It was a 'wow' moment. It was not only one of the greatest ever FA cup final goals, but in the context of how it happened, it was even more unbelievable. Listening to the crowd for several seconds before a simple "stunning". Not much more to say. Sometimes commentators want to use a load of words to describe an event, where pictures and crowd sound would suffice. Barry Davies was the master at it and Tyler is probably second to him in that. I felt that Motty wanted to ram a load of words over the airwaves and it detracted slightly from the moment.

    I'd be very interested in other people's views on this.

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    Barry Davies was the best by a country mile. In addition to being an excellent commentator he also knew when to say nothing. 'You sure do miss the silence when it's gone.'

    StT.
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    Feckin hate Alan Green, glad the BBC dropped him. Worst pundit, Pat Nevin, can't understand a word he says, sounds like he permanently pissed

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