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Birmingham
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Birmingham
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Derby aren't a million miles away, there'll be at least one "big club" going down this season, possibly 2 considering Rotherham's games in hand
Sky's Championship form guide reminds us that we're on relegation form over the past eight games and over the past six games. There are only three teams on worse run of form than us if stretching that out further, the past ten games, or reducing it so to be over past four games.Originally Posted by City123
Derby are in the top ten over each of these time periods and on play-off form in all but one.
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Birmingham a big club?
They're big for Division 3.
We won’t go down. When Brown is back this week Mick can play 4 centre half’s. 2 full backs. 3 defensive midfielders. Hoof it to Moore. Safety first football.
Pick up 3 wins and 10 draws in our remaining 20 games and we stay up.
They are bigger than us , put it that way
Not these days they are not
historically they have spent longer in the top two divisions than us and have had bigger crowds
Bigger club than us
Sheffield Wednesday , Derby , bigger clubs than us
Does that make a fig of difference to things as of now? No.
Yes because if we went down we could go into free fall
Leeds , Wednesday , Forest , Derby are big enough clubs to pull themselves back out
History Smishtory
Birmingham haven’t been in the PL for the last decade and their crowds are smaller than ours.
I used to go to St Andrews regularly when my cousin played for them. They are a similar sized club to us and certainly wouldn’t class them as a “big club” not like a Derby or a Forest.
If Birmingham City and Cardiff City were in the top two going for promotion you think we would get bigger crowds than them ?
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For a start our ground is bigger.
Won’t be a lot in it though, as I said similar sized clubs.
A lot of our fanbase think we're a tiny provincial club based on our period from the late 80s/90s, which historically is a massive outlier. We've spent about 70% of our history in the top two divisions
Can you tell me why then , that during much of Cardiff citys promotion season under your mate Colin, the crowds at the Cardiff City Stadium were nowhere near the capacity of the ground , even with those red seats not included ?
You said “if we were both going for promotion”. Well, for a start, towards the end of our last promotion season we were able pull crowds above Birmingham’s capacity. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact.
Birmingham, much like Cardiff, have an average attendance that seriously fluctuates depending on the teams form. However, comparisons of figures of both teams, in both divisions in the last 10 years puts us ahead of them. They averaged just over 25000 in their last 2 seasons in the Prem. we averaged over 31,000.
In the last decade our average has been under 20,000 on only two occasions. Birmingham have only averaged over 20,000 on 3 occasions and one of those was 10 years ago in the PL.
They are not a big club. No bigger than Cardiff City and certainly NOT in the same bracket as the other clubs who are at the wrong end of the table this season such as Derby, Forest and Sheff We’d.
In our last season in the Premier League we had the 11th highest average crowds despite struggling for results all season. Above clubs such as Southampton,Brighton,Palace and a couple of hundred behind a successful Leicester! We are one of the few club that would get 60k crowds if we were a top 6 team,I just wish a Billionaire could see our potential!
Talking of big clubs in trouble, I was surprised to find out that Ipswich Town have only been a league club (barring 1 season) since just after the Second World War. I had always assumed they had been plying their trade in Divisions 2, 3 and 4 prior to them winning the Division 1 title in 1961-62.
Amazing club in many ways have a great history and have had truly great players playing for them(Beattie, Mills, Butcher the Dutch pair and John Wark to name a few,they have been managed by the two best England managers and in Robson a great manager, they had the best owners in football for many years in the Cobbolds and pioneered foreign imports in Muhren and Thijsenn all in a town of about 130000
Struggling atm with a weird owner and crowds were down before lockdown but i think they will bounce back
i live in Ipswich and you see loads of people wearing Town gear, lots more than you do see people wearing City stuff in Cardiff or the valleys
Was it John Cobbold who said, “A crisis at Ipswich Town is the stock of red wine in the boardroom running low”. A brilliant, Corinthian view of things.
yes the post match boardroom drinks were legendary
Always thought of Ipswich as a proper football town. They’ve got a great history (depending on your age) and I still see the scruffy Eric Gates scoring goals in that Ipswich Adidas jersey.
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