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McCarthy was appointed 8 days ago. With a squad to assess and 2 league games to prepare for, I doubt he's had the time to identify new players as he would like. Williams offers something different. He's full of running, will give 100% and is in all probability just here to try and keep City in the Championship.
Well lets hope his luck changes because he keeps getting relegated from this division.Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Lets be honest, in your position as a devout critic of everything that Cardiff City does, you wouldn't be happy if we signed Messi or Mbappe.
Oh, hi dml. While I've got your attention, can you provide the source of your claim that Sheffield United paid more than a million pounds in loan fees for Madine?
Thanks.
I just think he is too injury prone. A fine player when fit, which isn’t gfrequent enough for a 46 game league season. If he joined City, I would add a caveat to the terms and conditions that whilst with CCFC he would not be allowed to play for Wales.
I don't think Williams will solve our problems but I also don't get this strange sneering attitude some have towards people who want more Welsh payers in the squad. Most fans of English clubs want more English players in their team so why is it any different for Cardiff fans to want more Welsh players?
Because weve only just got Jazz Richards off the books and this signing just smacks of another Jazz Richards. Injury prone league 1 player.
I don't want us to sign players who aren't good enough for the Championship just because they're Welsh.
Having Welsh players for the sake of it is what I don't agree with. I was happy with the Vaulks, Wilson and Moore signings but argued with those wanting us to sign Ledley and Gunter... And now Jonny Williams.
If we were linked with signing Neco Williams then that would be great... But wanting to sign Jonny Williams just because of the fact he's Welsh/chose to play for Wales makes no sense to me.
Is David Edwards still playing at Shrewsbury? There would be potentially some posters on here advocating us signing him because he's Welsh.
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Williams rocked up at Sunderland in their relegation season.
Sign league 1 quality players and dont be suprised when thats where you end up.
Crap signing hope its not true.
NML came from League 1. So did Moore. He's here to do a job until the end of the season - Just like McCarthy.
So we are going to pay a transfer fee for a player and only give him a 5 month contract?
Knowing our lot he'll get a 3.5 year deal.
What's the club worth ? £70 million ? Whatever it is, it will halve as soon as we are relegated. At the moment and the way we are playing I don't think the club is thinking beyond the end of this seasonSo we are going to pay a transfer fee for a player and only give him a 5 month contract?
Knowing our lot he'll get a 3.5 year deal.
Personally I don't think he's the worst player in the world, I just a) don't think that's a priority and b) can't see how we can rely on him when his injury record is awful
Hes not a crock apparently. I mean, the guy is 28 this year and hes never started 20 games in a single season. Relying on Williams would be like relying on Tomlin. At least Tomlin has done the business at this level.
We signed Moore from Wigan after he had a good season for them and had scored a decent amount of goals in the Championship. Wigan only got relegated because they went into administration and had a huge points deduction. They were mid-table before the points deduction came into play after the final whistle of their last game of the season.
Also, if you think Williams would only be here until the end of the season then why are we allegedly spending £200k on him? That would be even worse business than I already think it is.
We desperately need someone in midfield. It's not as if we've got much time to find someone.
The point is that he's not better than what we have already in midfield and I don't rate our midfield at all.
Ralls, Vaulks, Pack and Bacuna would likely walk into any team in League One yet Williams isn't starting for Charlton.
Saying we need someone in midfield might as well say we need to sign "anyone" in midfield. Let's just sign Darren Pratley, I think he's getting more games than Williams at Charlton.
Some of the arguments on here today are honestly baffling to me.
And some of the closed minds in this thread aren’t baffling me at all. The attitude already remarked upon about anybody who is more willing to consider the prospect of signing Williams only doing so because he is Welsh is a bit childish isn’t it? I set out at some length what I thought was a logical argument as to why in this particular case for this particular player the fact that he is Welsh is relevant- so far, it’s been completely ignored.
I know we're in the minority here TOBW but I'm not completely against this deal either.
I think hes got something about him and appears to have avoided any significant injuries last few seasons; which would be my major concern.
Yes he's not setting the world alight at Charlton but his wages should be relatively low due to the League One wage-cap. The idea that he would be coming into a team of better players () would hopefully help him be at his best.
I don't have a huge amount to base around why I think he's worth a punt at what I understand is pretty much a free transfer; aside from what I've seen him do at international level. Does that mean I just want us to sign him because he's welsh? No. He's just someone I'm familar with.
I'm all for signing younger players and glad to see we're trying to restructure that side of our recruitment but thats never going to just change overnight. The signings of Watters and NG make me believe that our intentions are changing.
Sounds like it will happen anyway. 18 months with a years option on our behalf would be my guess.
Yes, to be fair, I should have had a look at Williams’ figures before getting so involved in this thread, but, having now done so, I was surprised to see that he’d made forty four appearances for Charlton in the last season and a half. So, that’s a figure that confirms he hasn’t been an automatic selection in a team that has been below us for most of that time, but hardly qualifies them as a “crock” - he’s also featured eight times for Wales in the last two years.I know we're in the minority here TOBW but I'm not completely against this deal either.
I think hes got something about him and appears to have avoided any significant injuries last few seasons; which would be my major concern.
Yes he's not setting the world alight at Charlton but his wages should be relatively low due to the League One wage-cap. The idea that he would be coming into a team of better players (
I don't have a huge amount to base around why I think he's worth a punt at what I understand is pretty much a free transfer; aside from what I've seen him do at international level. Does that mean I just want us to sign him because he's welsh? No. He's just someone I'm familar with.
I'm all for signing younger players and glad to see we're trying to restructure that side of our recruitment but thats never going to just change overnight. The signings of Watters and NG make me believe that our intentions are changing.
Sounds like it will happen anyway. 18 months with a years option on our behalf would be my guess.
I can understand people having reservations about this possible signing and share them to a large degree when it comes to his injury record, but the degree to which people are against it surprises me - hostility is too strong a word to use, but I can’t remember this sort of reaction when we were signing Isaac Vassell for what could have been twelve times the fee that is being reported for Williams ( I note you saying it will be a lot less than that).
I think it would be a crazy signing myself but I've seen plenty of those in recent years. I'd wish him luck and hope it comes off for us if it happens. Just surprised by your stance here. It took me about two minutes to find this quote, I'm sure I could find plenty more if I wanted.
With Sang, Evans, Waite and Colwill as young attacking midfielders here I'd have thought you'd be mortified to find the club blocking their pathway to the first team before the new manager has even seen them play an under 23 game.
Do you think we would have any interest in signing him if he didn't play for Wales?I know we're in the minority here TOBW but I'm not completely against this deal either.
I think hes got something about him and appears to have avoided any significant injuries last few seasons; which would be my major concern.
Yes he's not setting the world alight at Charlton but his wages should be relatively low due to the League One wage-cap. The idea that he would be coming into a team of better players (
I don't have a huge amount to base around why I think he's worth a punt at what I understand is pretty much a free transfer; aside from what I've seen him do at international level. Does that mean I just want us to sign him because he's welsh? No. He's just someone I'm familar with.
I'm all for signing younger players and glad to see we're trying to restructure that side of our recruitment but thats never going to just change overnight. The signings of Watters and NG make me believe that our intentions are changing.
Sounds like it will happen anyway. 18 months with a years option on our behalf would be my guess.
I think McCarthy would; so yes.
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