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  1. #1

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    If he was such a brilliant player how come only cash strapped Sheffield Wednesday were interested? If he was Championship standard in every single position surely there would be a huge clamour for his signature?

    As someone who's had to endure Paterson on the wing, no he's not a better winger than Hoilett, it was embarrassing. Paterson has also shown none of the required attributes to be a good centre back or central midfielder. He was effective up front as a novelty act, but he was soon figured out by other defences (in fact he was best utilised behind the striker)
    He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently

  2. #2

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently
    Spot on, some people's attitudes on here, you think he would have left behind a team of high quality, technical players. He gets into our first team at the moment easily. Silly to let him go

  3. #3

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season and got 10 goals in a side that got automatic promotion with 91 points ! He then got shunted up front because we didn't really have another goal scoring forward and did more than ok. He is a victim of his own enthusiasm and hard work. If Ralls and Bacuna put in half the amount of effort that he did, we wouldn't be languishing in lower mid table as we are currently
    When he played on the right we were characterised by time wasting tactics and lumping the ball forward, its no surprise that our excellent early season performances became turgid hoofball affairs once he was introduced on the right.. He was a good nuisance, but he's showed nothing to suggest that he could play the role Ralls did or still does. I was a unclear on that was what I was trying to get at when saying he couldn't play in midfield, but thought it was implied as the person I was replying to specifically mentioned Ralls. By the time we'd sold him, Paterson was almost completely ineffective and having a strop if he was brought off. He's a character and he works hard, but he was almost certainly on good money as one of Warnock's favourites and exactly the kind of player we need to be moving away from if we want to watch football where the ball's on the floor for more than 10 minutes a game

    Lamenting Ralls whilst bigging up Paterson's contributions in the promotion season is a strange one considering Ralls was a key part of that side, starting 37 games and playing the full 90 in all but one, with a hamstring injury the only thing keeping him from playing in the remaining games (coincidentally that spell included that brief wobble against Sheffield United, Wolves & Villa). By contrast, Paterson started 23 games, playing over 1,000 fewer minutes than Ralls. Surely if Paterson was this great midfielder, he'd have played more than the apparently work shy Ralls?

    Also, Paterson's current side are one of the few below us in the table, which surely refutes your point that we wouldn't be languishing where we are if the almighty Callum Paterson were still in the side?

  4. #4

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    When he played on the right we were characterised by time wasting tactics and lumping the ball forward, its no surprise that our excellent early season performances became turgid hoofball affairs once he was introduced on the right.. He was a good nuisance, but he's showed nothing to suggest that he could play the role Ralls did or still does. I was a unclear on that was what I was trying to get at when saying he couldn't play in midfield, but thought it was implied as the person I was replying to specifically mentioned Ralls. By the time we'd sold him, Paterson was almost completely ineffective and having a strop if he was brought off. He's a character and he works hard, but he was almost certainly on good money as one of Warnock's favourites and exactly the kind of player we need to be moving away from if we want to watch football where the ball's on the floor for more than 10 minutes a game

    Lamenting Ralls whilst bigging up Paterson's contributions in the promotion season is a strange one considering Ralls was a key part of that side, starting 37 games and playing the full 90 in all but one, with a hamstring injury the only thing keeping him from playing in the remaining games (coincidentally that spell included that brief wobble against Sheffield United, Wolves & Villa). By contrast, Paterson started 23 games, playing over 1,000 fewer minutes than Ralls. Surely if Paterson was this great midfielder, he'd have played more than the apparently work shy Ralls?

    Also, Paterson's current side are one of the few below us in the table, which surely refutes your point that we wouldn't be languishing where we are if the almighty Callum Paterson were still in the side?
    First of all, Sheff Wed are playing with a six point deduction, so check the table and see where they would be without that. Also they are one of the biggest clubs in the division (ground, squad, fanbase), so it was always likely that they would put a run together and get out of it. With regard to Ralls, I was referring to his performances this season which have been lacklustre to say the least and pointing out that some of Patersons effort and commitment wouldn't go amiss now with players like Ralls and Bacuna. Paterson played in 32 league games (35 in total)in the promotion season and scored 10 goals and if you remember he missed the first two months of the season because he was recovering from the Cruciate injury he had at Hearts. His record therefore stands close comparison with Ralls, who only scored 7 goals, and Paterson in my opinion was therefore also a key part of that side.

  5. #5

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    First of all, Sheff Wed are playing with a six point deduction, so check the table and see where they would be without that. Also they are one of the biggest clubs in the division (ground, squad, fanbase), so it was always likely that they would put a run together and get out of it. With regard to Ralls, I was referring to his performances this season which have been lacklustre to say the least and pointing out that some of Patersons effort and commitment wouldn't go amiss now with players like Ralls and Bacuna. Paterson played in 32 league games (35 in total)in the promotion season and scored 10 goals and if you remember he missed the first two months of the season because he was recovering from the Cruciate injury he had at Hearts. His record therefore stands close comparison with Ralls, who only scored 7 goals, and Paterson in my opinion was therefore also a key part of that side.
    Dry your eyes mate, his fat bottom waddled out of town ages ago.

  6. #6

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    Dry your eyes mate, his fat bottom waddled out of town ages ago.
    All I said is that we could have done with some of his effort and commitment this season. Also, his ‘fat bottom’ played a big part in our promotion, so for that we should all be grateful and not slagging him off continually.

  7. #7

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    First of all, Sheff Wed are playing with a six point deduction, so check the table and see where they would be without that. Also they are one of the biggest clubs in the division (ground, squad, fanbase), so it was always likely that they would put a run together and get out of it. With regard to Ralls, I was referring to his performances this season which have been lacklustre to say the least and pointing out that some of Patersons effort and commitment wouldn't go amiss now with players like Ralls and Bacuna. Paterson played in 32 league games (35 in total)in the promotion season and scored 10 goals and if you remember he missed the first two months of the season because he was recovering from the Cruciate injury he had at Hearts. His record therefore stands close comparison with Ralls, who only scored 7 goals, and Paterson in my opinion was therefore also a key part of that side.
    They'd still be below us. 6 points behind and a worse goal difference. What does the size of their ground have to do with Callum Paterson?

    No he doesn't compare to Ralls, as I pointed out Ralls played 1,000 minutes more than Paterson in a set position. They also played completely different roles in that side, so its frankly baffling that you're comparing Paterson and Ralls' goalscoring record as if it proves anything, Paterson played further forward than Ralls. I notice you don't refute that our performances were worse with Paterson in the side, which surely indicates he isn't the answer to our problems?

    People on here keep saying a lack of effort is the reason our performances have been the issue this season, it really isn't, the issue is lack of quality, not lack of effort. Ralls has been asked this season to play in roles he's completely unsuited to by the previous manager and his form has suffered as a result. I honestly can't believe some on here think Paterson is a better midfielder than him

  8. #8
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    He played centre or right sided midfield for most of our Championship promotion season
    He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

    Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?

  9. #9

    Re: Callum Paterson

    We would be better off with him, having lost Glatzel.

  10. #10

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    We would be better off with him, having lost Glatzel.
    Hindsight is wonderful. Paterson wasnt happy being on the bench and he certainly isnt better Moore.

    So hes had a good month. Big deal. I remember we used to get these threads after we let Tom Adeymi go out on loan. How we had made a mistake.etc. The guy hasnt had a club for 2 years.

  11. #11

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

    Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?
    Spot on.

    I'm sure he played CM in one of the cups and was awful, totally lost.
    He played a few games wide, never particularly well.

  12. #12
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Spot on.

    I'm sure he played CM in one of the cups and was awful, totally lost.
    He played a few games wide, never particularly well.
    Exactly. He played a few games at right-wing back too but I doubt there would be any posters claiming Bennett played left midfield for us that season.

  13. #13

    Re: Callum Paterson

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    He absolutely did not. Why make shit up?

    Unless you don't know the difference between centre midfield and playing behind the striker?
    He absolutely did. You were obviously not watching - what a surprise !

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